Roger Wentworth Monday, May 31, 2010 at 12:16:26   174.131.100.181
I have added H/P cachets to many older classic period covers over the years. I was told by several senior USCS members that out of courtesy to unschooled collectors that I should label them on the back as add ons, so that there will never be any confusion about the cachet. I realize that many of you could spot an add on a mile away. But, when I first joined the USCS I could not. And, there are some H/P cachets that I still do not recognize as add ons when I see them. I have no problem recognizing computer generated add ons at all. I am not against add on cachets at all. Just feel strongly that they should be labeled as such. Some of most charished Theodore Roosevelt cachets on naval covers are add ons.
Rich Hoffner Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 22:56:16   68.80.86.203
From SUBMARINE GROUP NINE facebook pageUSS Alabama (SSBN 731) Celebrate 25 Years of Service
Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 12:31pm
Sailors aboard the USS Alabama (SSBN 731) celebrated the 25th anniversary of the ship’s commissioning with a small ceremony at the Keyport Undersea Museum May 25, Keyport, Wash.
Members from the Northwest Chapter of the Universal Ship Cancellation Society (USCS) USS Columbia #106 sponsored the event that included a special guest speaker, Alabama’s first Commanding Officer (Gold Crew), Capt. (ret.) Mal Wright.
"It is always great to come back and tell the rich history to the Sailor’s,” said Wright. “Our guys don’t get a lot of recognition so being able to get together and celebrate an important day in Alabama’s history has been wonderful.”
Members of the local USCS chapter created commemorative cachets and postmarks in keeping with their tradition of recording naval history through the naval postal system.
Rear Adm. Frank Caldwell, Commander, Submarine Group Nine, presented Cmdr. Christopher Kline, Alabama (Blue Crew) commanding officer, with a letter from the governor of Alabama commemorating the 25 proud years of service from the boat and crews.
“I think it is important to pause and recognize the contributions of the ship and the crews who have served on her,” said Caldwell. “When the ship was put into service 25 years ago there was a threat to our nation. Today that threat has changed but it still remains, and Alabama has the capability to ensure our nation is safe.”
Rich Hoffner Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 22:20:16   68.80.86.203
As members filter back to their home states, I'm sure many will be here telling us how much fun they had at the convention. I think the best part of it was the nightly vists to the hospitality room where I found probably 1/3 of the covers I am going to hoard, I mean collect. The convention auction was also a fun event, worth the price of admission (which there was none). It was also pleasant having an Internet connection at the hotel for free.
Rich Hoffner Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 22:14:19   68.80.86.203
Mike B. The package arrived after I left for the convention last Thursday morning. I'll get it in the mail on Tuesday since the PO is closed tomorrow for the holiday.
Rich Hoffner Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 22:11:56   68.80.86.203
Our Chapters most senior member, Sidney Fingerhood, USCS # 2549, had the honor of making the motion to adjourn the 2010 general membership meeting of the USCS on Saturday.
don campbell Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 22:10:24   70.190.150.103
Sounds like the convention was a success. Sorry I couldn't be there. Hope to make Dallas. Don C.
don campbell Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 22:8:36   70.190.150.103
Mike B. Thanks for your offer. I sent you two sets of covers for the cancels. Hope youget them in time. Don C.
esink Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 22:7:42   71.207.33.205
I have said this before, but I DO add wording to a cover received as a memory "jogger" so two or more years from now, I will come across covers with a ship's cachets and postmarks and I will remember why I even bothered keeping them...Rich, I'll show you what I mean with some attachments.
Rich Hoffner Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 22:6:2   68.80.86.203
Decatur Chapter is proud of the 9 chapter members who made the trip to the USCS convention. Perhaps the largest chapter gathering at a USCS convention since 1985 when we hosted the convention in Valley Forge PA.
Rich Hoffner Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 21:58:58   68.80.86.203
Our next convention, start filling your piggy bank and be ready to roll!Texpex 2011
Next Show Apr. 15-17, 2011
Doubletree Hotel Dallas Near the Galleria
4099 Valley View Ln. (I-635 at Midway exit)
Dallas, Texas
Free Admission, Free Parking
Open to the public
Rich Hoffner Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 21:53:16   68.80.86.203
Additionally I have talked to numberous collectors who send to ships, asking for cancels and that the cachet should be applied to the back of the cover. The reason is that they intend to ad on a cachet when the covers come back. Truly, and ad-on cachet also. I can understand why, no sense doing the work involved in doing a cachet and have the covers either pilfered or possibly just "deep sixed" by a mail clerk.Another source of ad-on cachets is the thousands of uncacheted covers in our midst that are finished off many years later with a computer printed cachet. I know what a duck looks like when I see a duck and don't ask anyone to stamp it DUCK! I know an ad on cachet when I see it and I feel the same way. I'm not fooled. Most times, it's probably a cover I need in my collection and I purchase it. I do perfer that the cachet makers name or USCS number appear somewhere on the cover, but the wording "ad-on" is not necessary for me to make a decision on purchasing the cover.
Rich Hoffner Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 21:42:11   68.80.86.203
I just looked and ad-on cachets are not covered in the 10 Commandments. There were even some ad-on cachets in the auctions at the convention auction. Are we going to start the "ad-on hysteria again? What is an ad-on cachet? I do chapter covers AFTER I get them back and I'm sure the covers are properly postmarked. Those that are not properly canceled are returned to the office that did them, for a refund of the ruined postage and replacement covers are sent also. So, couple this with some offices not returning covers for three or four months, then some that have to go back for replacements, they then come back for printing. The printing can take a week to ten days, depending on how many colors I use and drying conditions in my basement. So, we can be looking to doing the printing as long as five menths after an event. To me, this is clearly and "ad-on" cachet by many definitions. I also have arrangements to send un-cacheted several cachet makers to ahve their cachets applied. this effort ads another two or three weeks to the time a cachet is added onto a cover. Another "ad-on" creation! To complain about describing a cover on eBay as an ad-on seemes of little value and a waste of effort. I see many FLK (Karcher covers) on eBay weekly, few go into any detail to explain that the covers are of a dubious nature, considering his counterfeit cancels, backdating of naval events and first day covers on ships on 7-1-81 and his endless number of covers bearing his hand written free frank on covers that did not see duty in Vietnam, nor were they processed within the guidelines of the DOD and USPOD/USPS at the time. More energy should be coming from chat room readers and eBay bidders to educate anyone with a dubious Karcher cover for sale. Just my 2c worth.
esink Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 17:31:30   71.207.33.205
Having a wonderful time; wish I was there...at NOJEX...will plan to attend a convention in next year or so--definitely in Baltimore.
Dave Kent Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 17:6:36   63.138.23.68
Not everyone believes that adding a cachet to an old cover is a "problem."
Roger Wentworth Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 11:50:17   174.131.100.181
I'm still seeing an awful lot of covers on EBay with add on cachets that are not described as so. When I point this out to the sellers, I get no response, or they say they will change the listing to A/O, but never do.
john young Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 7:51:32   69.116.43.222
Sunday morning, waiting to NOJEX 2010 to open its
doors for third day of hunting for naval covers.
Glad Sgt Preston (RCMP) shut down "beer coaster" convention in Thunder Bay, ONT, Canada.
It was a chance to meet old friends, find more
Coast Guard covers along with my other interests
i.e. Navy Day, Holiday & Famous Fifty destroyers
Even found a USS BEAR (AG 29) cover w/o add-on
cachet posted at Little America, Antarctica
Sorry, Ned!
Rich Hoffner Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 2:11:20   63.138.23.68
WOW, quiet day on the chat! Hospitality room petered out around 130AM. Great convention auction last night called by Howard Tiffner and assisted by Bob Rawlins. Some great covers found new homes. If you missed out, well start planning for next year.
esink Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 0:1:42   71.207.33.205
June eLOG also arrived in Harrisburg PA area...SUPERB issue!
Don Tjossem Saturday, May 29, 2010 at 22:40:37   98.125.225.95
June eLOG received in Longbranch, WA!Thanks Richard and contributors for the interesting reading for this week-end.
SteveShay Saturday, May 29, 2010 at 17:35:42   63.138.23.87
Lots of covers and some nice exhibits and awards today for several people. The general membership meeting had about 30 people. Banquet and auction coming up this evening.
Rich Hoffner Saturday, May 29, 2010 at 11:26:50   63.138.23.68
Lots of covers still awaiting ... so off to the show floor for the day.
Rich Hoffner Saturday, May 29, 2010 at 11:25:55   63.138.23.68
FACEBOOK was officially launched for USCS by BOD yesterday!
Rich Hoffner Saturday, May 29, 2010 at 11:23:40   63.138.23.68
Hay, ELgin. Just waking up here. Late night in Hospitality Room. Lots of great covers at the convention and in teh hosptiality room alst night. Dave K. Steve H and me locked up the room at 145 am. So early, we must be getting old. Dave mentioned we used to see the sun come up in past history!
esink Saturday, May 29, 2010 at 9:37:46   71.207.33.205
Good Morning...
Don Tjossem Friday, May 28, 2010 at 22:12:24   98.125.225.95
By Navy News Service May 28th1813 - Frigate Essex and prize capture five British whalers.
1917 - First underway fueling in U.S. Navy, USS Maumee fuels 6 destroyers in North Atlantic. LCDR Chester W. Nimitz served as Maumee's executive officer and chief engineer.
1957 - 1st of 24 detonations, Operation Plumbbob nuclear test.
1980 - 55 women become first women graduates from the U.S. Naval Academy.
By Navy News Service May 29th
1781 - Frigate Alliance captures HMS Atalanta and Trepassy off Nova Scotia.
1991 - Amphibious Task Force in Bangladesh for cyclone relief redeployed.
By Navy News Service May 30th
1814 - Navy gunboats capture three British boats on Lake Ontario near Sandy Creek, N.Y.
By Navy News Service May 31st
1900 - Sailors and Marines from USS Newark and USS Oregon arrive at Peking, China, with other Sailors and Marines from Britain, France, Russia, Italy and Japan to protect U.S. and foreign diplomatic legations from the Boxers.
1919 - NC-4's transatlantic flight ends at Plymouth, England.
1944 - USS England (DE 635) sank a record sixth Japanese submarine in 13 days.
For more information about naval history, visit the Naval Historical Center Web site at www.history.navy.mil.
esink Friday, May 28, 2010 at 21:39:34   71.207.33.205
Mike/I had already sent 4 covers before this posting...Just let them go thru regular mail since I did not send the SASE. Also, one stamp is placed high and one is low for each ship in case there is an over cancel. Thanks very much for your help.
Mike Brock Friday, May 28, 2010 at 18:48:14   71.237.135.205
If anyone else wants USS BUNKER HILL & USS SAMPSON covers cancel with the special FPO ship postmark for their Portland Oregon Rose Festival Port Visit dated June 5, 2010 you can send your covers to me and I will hand carry them aboard when the ships arrive in Portland. Please include a SASE for your covers return. Also please write on the outside of your envelope the name of the ship. If you want cancels from both ships please send two SASE. Thanks.Mike Brock
141 Kingsgate Road
Lake Oswego, Oregon 97035
I know my contact person aboard the USS BUNKER HILL went on leave soon after we exchanged emails. That may be the reason for the problems.
Don Tjossem Friday, May 28, 2010 at 12:50:36   98.125.218.246
Take pictures.......Upload them to Facebook!
Don Tjossem Friday, May 28, 2010 at 12:47:43   98.125.218.246
Wish I were there!
esink Friday, May 28, 2010 at 10:51:4   71.207.33.205
Thanks, Rich...I am sending some covers to Mike today...
Rich Hoffner Friday, May 28, 2010 at 9:49:2   63.138.23.68
Sorry for the "fat fingers". Hate this small keyboard on Peg's laptop.
Rich Hoffner Friday, May 28, 2010 at 9:47:55   63.138.23.68
BTW, if your not in Secaucus, you should be. Some great covers in teh hospitaly room last noght, with a nice group of members scurrying through the boxes. Saw dealers setting up and can't wait to get on the floor this AM. So, if you are within driging range, weather is great, come on over!
Rich Hoffner Friday, May 28, 2010 at 9:44:44   63.138.23.68
Elgin, SAMPSON will also have a Rose Festival pictorial. Mike should be able to handle both. I will be sending him covers from the USCS cover service to have canceled aboard both ships. Guess the person aboard that Mike made arrangements did not pass this on the the ships mail clerk, LS or whoever in supply dept. is in charge of the post office. I think his oroginal contact was the PAO.
Rich Hoffner Friday, May 28, 2010 at 9:40:24   63.138.23.68
Very early closure of the hospitality room last night. Last stragglers staggered out around 1:15 AM. I was prepared for at least a stay until 2AM. ALERT: No Yuengling in the hospitality room. Green tea seemed to be the favorite. Coors was flown in from Colorado (I think)? Hotel wiored hot sopt, which is a plus. Sgt. PReston was seen on the exhibit floor and lurking around the hospitality room. King no where in sight, perhaps held at the border?
Rich Hoffner Friday, May 28, 2010 at 9:34:2   63.138.23.68
Elgin: Send your covers to Mike Brock, perhaps they will get to him in time for him to carry them aboard.
Dave Kent Friday, May 28, 2010 at 1:46:12   63.138.23.68
Although the convention may not have officially started yet, the hospitality room has been breached. Numerous covers found new homes. Some liquid refreshment was consumed (some solid refreshments, too). Y'all converge on Seacacus, New Jersey or be left in the dust.
esink Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 14:1:5   71.207.33.205
Covers originally sent (and requested to be held)for ROSE FESTIVAL postmark from USS BUNKER HILL were received today with short bar dated MAY 24 and over-cancelled San Diego same date. Apparently, nobody communicates to the postal coordinator that there will be a special event postmark to be used on board for the festival...
esink Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 11:57:6   71.207.33.205
Sgt Preston asked me to post, "Well, King, This case is closed!
Glenn Smith Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 9:54:14   56.0.143.25
Bringing some "Pennsylvania Wine" (Yuengling) for those real men that are coming to NOJEX!
Steve Shay Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 8:50:56   12.238.10.2
Tom Hanaway: Yes, I received the 100th Anniversary material and had sent you an e mail thanking you for it. I'm taking some of it to the convention to pass out in the hospitality room.
john young Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 7:32:8   69.116.43.222
Bad News concerning the Canadian beer coaster convention- its canceled until further notices
as SGT Preston and the Royal Canadian Mounties raided the motel- closed the convention center
in Thunder Bay. Too much mold- Guess I'll have
to join Bob Rawlin's eel fishing on Hackensack
River. Look out! Hoffner- John Young coming to the Meadowlands looking for Coast Guard covers.
Mike Brock Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 0:44:31   71.237.135.205
From Tom Armstrong...USS COLUMBIA Chapter #106 & the USCS on navy.milhttp://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=53631
esink Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 0:11:43   71.207.33.205
Rich/Thanks for the info...Have a great time at the convention
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 23:15:15   68.80.86.203
I saw a lot of the email traffic from USS Columbia Chapter and it's celebration of the 25th Anniversary of the USS Alabama. BZ to those chapter members reponsible for the event. And the great covers, several of which were stamped with a previously unknown four bar postmark off the 731. Dates were added by some other method, as the boat had no daters.
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 23:8:9   68.80.86.203
Elgin, the dates you give for NASHVILLE are pretty close. Some of these ships shut down post offices days to weeks before decommissioning. Plus, any mail to an FPO address does not move at the same pace as civilian USPS mail, even if the ship is not deployed. It can take up to three weeks at times to get mail to a ship FPO address. Many times I try to get a shore snail mail address when I am sending to a cooperative PC for an event cover for the chapter, knowing that I could miss the date using the FPO address. My recollection was that the NASHVILLE crew had moved off the ship a week or two before the event. They were in temporary quarters at Norfolk Naval Base. Our chapter covers were done through a USCS member who works there, who hand carried our covers, at least three times, before he made positive contact with the mail clerk. He was about to give up when on one visit the mail clerk was found and he got our covers done. Without his help, we would have not had cancels from NASHVILLE. Interesting to note that the mail clerk thought he didn't have the cancel, that he had turned it in. But persistance by "our man on the scene" prevailed and the mail clerk found his cancel. Perhaps he jsut let incoming mail sit and finally it would be forwarded to the amphib assigned to give "Direcotry Service" to any mail for NASHVILLE after she was decommissioned. Of course, I doubt it should take eight months to come back but who knows. SOmetimes, such a returned cover can be a treasure, with special and or unknown cancels from the ship giving directory service. I saw an all purpose cancel recently with that wording in the cancel.
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 22:52:44   68.80.86.203
JY - I'll be heading North tomorrow with a stop over in Canada. Since you are heading north to a beer coaster convention, I'll see you for lunch in Ottawa.
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 22:50:32   68.80.86.203
Not packed yet but covers read to go! USCS "stuff" ready to go. Peg tells me I have to get up early and take the car to the car wash. Heck, don't want to show up in a dusty vehicle!
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 22:48:15   68.80.86.203
Wine stored in the trunk? Call the wine police. The heat will take it's toll on the wine.
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 22:46:25   68.80.86.203
Speaking of great covers, the mid-month cover was a limited edition cover, printed by yours truly. With the assistance of Bob Rawlins, he and I cooperated to issue various sub event covers, showing appropriate flags. Bob did the artwork and I hand painted the covers in tempra colors. I believe that perhaps 25 of each was issued. I recall Robert E. Lee, Florida, Simon Bolivar, Georgia and others. A special rubber stamp was applied to the reverse indicating the cachet maker, artist and hand tinting.
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 22:41:13   68.80.86.203
Tom - great covers. Thansk, Rich H
Mike Brock Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 21:1:44   71.237.135.205
Have a good time Dave.
Dave Kent Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 20:59:52   72.195.145.51
Car's packed, GPS set to 2 Harmon Drive, wine carefully stowed in the trunk. Ready to set off for the convention.
Tom Hanaway #11929 Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 20:17:18   24.79.16.149
Hey Steve Shay:
Did you and the other Exec. members get the CDN 100 TH Anniv. of the Navy stuff I sent you??
Tom
Don Tjossem Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 19:6:15   98.125.168.219
By Navy News Service May 26th1944 - USS England (DE 635) sinks fifth Japanese submarine in one week.
1952 - Tests from 26-29 May demonstrate feasibility of the angled-deck concept conducted on simulated angled deck on USS Midway.
1990 - USS Beaufort rescues 24 Vietnamese refugees in South China Sea.
esink Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 13:28:43   71.207.33.205
Correction, covers sent in 2009...
esink Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 13:26:59   71.207.33.205
Covers had been sent on 9/10/10 in plenty of time for the 9/30/10 USS NASHVILLE (LPD-13) decommissioning...Covers received today in original outside envelopes stamped "RETURN TO SENDER; SHIP DECOMMISSIONED; NO FORWARDING ADDRESS AVAILABLE. I wish they had even tried...
Roger Wentworth Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 12:38:8   174.131.100.181
Hope all of you have a nice time and find gobs of naval covers at the convention. Wish I could be there.
If any of you have any spare time and care to help me out, I am looking for a few First day of Issue uncachetd covers for:
1956/Devil's Tower Issue
1964/John Muir Issue
1974/V.F.W. Issue
1983/Medal of Honor Issue
I can use 1-5 of each uncacheted and they can be addressed or unaddressed. Standard size envelopes preferred.
Mike Brock Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 11:5:3   71.237.135.205
Hi Don.
Don Tjossem Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 10:54:48   98.125.229.125
Hi Steve!
Steve Shay Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 10:53:53   12.238.10.2
Mike, it looks like it was a nice affair. I'm sure the Chapter had a good time.
Mike Brock Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 0:6:22   71.237.135.205
Great day at Kitsap Naval Base-Keyport, Washington for the 25th Commissioning Anniversary of the USS ALABAMA SSBN-731. Captain Mal Wright, USN (Retired) the first Commanding Officer (Gold Crew) is an excellent speaker.
BMCM Jones 3933 Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 21:51:41   72.188.40.91
Finished packing for the convention. Leaving for NYC in the morning for few days, a few plays, and fleet week.
Will go over to Jersey Friday.I hope to see many of you at the convention.
eddie Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 20:24:24   71.207.153.8
If anyone would like to see pictures of the naval covers go to the stamp collecting forum and under us covers catagory.
Eddie Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 20:5:56   71.207.153.8
I will be adding six naval covers from the U.S.S CALIFORNIA and the U.S.S RELIEF from 1937 some have original letters on ebay later tonight or early tomorrow.
Roger Wentworth Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 17:41:0   98.18.134.197
USS ALABAMA anniversary pictorials back from Groton today. Great Strikes!
Roger Wentworth Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 17:39:37   98.18.134.197
I just got back some USS BUNKER HILL covers that I sent way back in February for Washington's Birthday cancels. Totally botched! Wrong dates, damaged, over cancels, sent back in the mail outside my return mailer.
Roger Wentworth Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 14:12:11   98.18.134.197
Sad to hear about the OLYMPIA!
esink Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 11:10:22   71.207.33.205
CNN just reported new memorial website for U.S. casualties in Afghanistan and Iraq: www.cnn.com/homeandaway...very impressive and sad.
Don Tjossem Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 10:51:37   98.125.166.2
COVER OF THE MONTH................That was fast!Nice Cover!
Derek Fox Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 8:46:45   90.218.113.18
Is anyone going to the fleet week at New York this week? - I'm trying to get a "welcome aboard" leaflet from the USS Iwo Jima for my collection - will pay postage - thanks.
Glenn Smith Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 5:54:48   67.232.233.213
Today marks the 25th Anniversary of USS Alabama SSBN-731. The USCS USS Columbia Chapter has organized what appears to be a steller event with the commissioning CO, CAPT Mal Wright as guest speaker, and the commissioning Immediate Superior in Command, RADM Stan Bump as a special guest. The current command structure will also be well-represented, and the ship's CO & CMC will be there. There will be an appropriate cancel as well.Well Done Mike Brock, Pete Leenhouts and their shipmates at Columbia!
esink Monday, May 24, 2010 at 23:56:42   71.207.33.205
Rich/ On your BUNKER HILL suggestions, how many days does it take for our covers to be received aboard via the FPO system? It is getting close to the June 5 date for the special cancel...(My covers are already out for the event, but sent to the COPE.)
BMCM Jones 3933 Monday, May 24, 2010 at 23:50:39   72.188.40.91
Great hockey game. Two hungry teams Blackhawks and Flyers for the Stanley Cup.
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 24, 2010 at 23:46:6   68.80.86.203
Are the monomoy races still on in Secaucus? What team am I on?
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 24, 2010 at 23:44:45   68.80.86.203
This Date in Coast Guard History 24 May•1830-Navy officers, under furlough from the Navy until April 1832, were given commissions in the Revenue Service.
•1941-CGC Modoc sighted the German battleship Bismarck while the cutter searched for survivors of a convoy southeast of Cape Farewell, Greenland. British Swordfish torpedo planes from the Royal Navy aircraft carrier HMS Victorious circled Modoc as they flew towards the German battleship's position. The Modoc's crew then spotted the flashes caused by anti-aircraft fire from the Bismarck and then sighted British warships on the opposite horizon. The cutter then maneuvered to avoid contact with any of the warships and managed to steam out of the area unscathed.
Lets see, a 240-foot, 1,506 ton patrol gunboat comes across a battleship of 823-foot, 41,700 ton vessel, it is time to get out of Dodge!
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 24, 2010 at 23:35:22   68.80.86.203
Three days and counting. Looking forward to the dealers, great covers, hospitality room, renewing old acquaintances and making new friends. Several dealers have contacted me and have held aside all 1790's covers from the U S Revenue Cutter Service.
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 24, 2010 at 23:24:45   68.80.86.203
CC, sorry I checked a 2009 list for him.
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 24, 2010 at 23:23:54   68.80.86.203
Cape Cod mouse, answer is yes.
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 24, 2010 at 23:21:51   68.80.86.203
Wondering out loud about OLYMPIA. How about building a cofferdam around her, back fill, and and leave her "high and dry". Could be less expensive then the dredging, towing, asbestos removal and hull strenghting needed to sink her as a reef. I did see coal near her boilers once, wonder if that also has to come out?
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 24, 2010 at 23:18:13   68.80.86.203
Sad part of the USS OLYMPIA saga is that the repairs that they can not afford "in these tough economic times" are the same upgrades and repairs that have been needed for a very long time. Those responsibe for that could have used due diligence many years ago to accomplish what needed to be done, at a time when it would have been much less expensive and when the USN operated the shipyard in Philly. Sad, indeed.
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 24, 2010 at 23:12:40   68.80.86.203
What did you sent to BUNKER HILL for, the Portland Rose Festival? Problem is, she won't pick up the special cancels until she arrives at Portland and the local chapter members there hand carry the cancel aboard. Same for the DDG involved at Portland. SO, I guess we have to be very specific and remind them to hold them for the special cancel that the ship approved. I would suggest NOT sending to the mail clerk or COPE, but instead to the Supply Officer (SUPPO) or Public Affairs Officer (PAO).
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 24, 2010 at 23:5:57   68.80.86.203
Great TV night here in the Hoffner household. Flyers competed with "24" for our attention. Lots of wrist action on the remote jumping between the local Fox affiliate and the cable channel VS. Jack is free to live another day, and the Flyers go on to battle the Black Hawks, what more could anyone want?
Don Tjossem Monday, May 24, 2010 at 22:27:20   98.125.166.2
By Navy News Service -- May 24th1917 - First U.S. convoy to cross North Atlantic during World War I leaves Hampton Roads, Va.
1918 - USS Olympia anchors at Kola Inlet, Murmansk, Russia, to protect refugees during Russian Revolution.
1939 - First and only use of Vice Adm. Allan McCann's Rescue Chamber to rescue 33 men from sunken USS Squalus (SS 192).
1941 - Authorization of construction or acquisition of 550,000 tons of auxiliary shipping for Navy.
1945 - Fast carrier task force aircraft attack airfields in southern Kyushu, Japan.
1945 - Nine U.S. ships damaged by concentrated kamikaze attack off Okinawa.
Steve Shay Monday, May 24, 2010 at 20:39:57   12.72.158.62
A sad story:Historic Warship's Future May Be Sunk
(PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER 23 MAY 10) ... Edward Colimore
The old warship has been part of Philadelphia's waterfront for 50 years and left lasting impressions on thousands of visitors who heard gripping stories of its role in the Spanish-American War.
Now the Olympia - the last surviving vessel from that 1898 conflict - could face an ignoble end as an artificial reef off Cape May if a new benefactor cannot be found.
The Independence Seaport Museum and the Navy have already checked with officials of New Jersey's Artificial Reef Program on the possibility of sinking the ship, once a source of national pride.
"Another option would be scrapping Olympia," said James McLane, interim president of the museum, which owns the ship and is adjacent to it at Penn's Landing. "But the Navy has told us that 'reefing' is better because it would allow divers to go down on it and would preserve Olympia."
The museum can no longer afford the ship's upkeep, McLane said. At least $20 million is needed to tow, restore, interpret, and endow the deteriorating vessel.
"We have a couple people we're talking to who might take the ship," McLane said, "but these things don't move with great speed."
The ship will be open until the end of September, then closed while its future is determined, McLane said.
"This may be the last summer for people to visit," he said. "They should come to see it while they can."
Another former Navy warship, the Arthur W. Radford, a 563-foot-long Spruance class destroyer, will be sunk by the fall to create a reef about 30 miles southeast of Cape May.
As for the Olympia, "we recognize the historic significance of the ship," said Larry Hajna, a spokesman for the state Department of Environmental Protection. "It's not our call. It was an inquiry. The DEP is not endorsing this."
Countless tons of vessels, military tanks, railroad cars, and other materials have been reefed since the state's Bureau of Marine Fisheries began the program in 1984. The purpose is to provide a habitat for marine life, fishing grounds, and points of interest for scuba divers.
Talk of making the Olympia part of New Jersey's reef network disappoints ship supporters such as Harry Burkhardt, a merchant marine captain and steam-engine expert who is a volunteer on the vessel.
Burkhardt is president of Friends of the Cruiser Olympia (www.fotco.org), which is trying to raise money for preservation of the ship. The group got its nonprofit status this month and has begun receiving pledges and interest from individuals and corporations, Burkhardt said.
"We want to take over its ownership and operation," he said. "We have a long list of ideas, but we have to save the ship to implement them."
Burkhardt, 53, of South Philadelphia, said he would turn the Olympia into a self-sustaining museum with a living-history crew and education programs for inner-city children.
"I think what's happening is a total disgrace," he said. "The Liberty Bell has a crack in it, but we don't melt it down. The Statue of Liberty turned green with corrosion, but we don't throw it away."
The Olympia "was a symbol of America's might and freedom," Burkhardt said. "Now she's a symbol of negligence."
Concerned about the condition of the Olympia, the Navy sent a letter to the museum last May asking about plans to dry-dock the vessel for the necessary maintenance.
On the water line, small portions of the Olympia's half-inch steel hull have corroded to an eighth of an inch and must be monitored continually. Water leaks through the deck into the interior, causing further rust.
"We have cared for Olympia lovingly," McLane said. "We have put $5.5 million into it and spend money on it every day."
The Olympia was authorized in 1888 and commissioned in 1895. The state-of-the-art vessel led five other U.S. warships into Manila Bay in the Philippines on May 1, 1898, and fired shots in a battle to wrest control of that country from the Spanish.
Navy Commodore George Dewey stood on the bridge of the ship and uttered the famous words: "You may fire when you are ready, Gridley."
Under Dewey's command, the U.S. fleet destroyed 10 Spanish cruisers and gunboats in hours without losing an American life.
The Olympia spent World War I in the Atlantic Ocean, and brought remains of the Unknown Soldier home from France in 1921.
It was docked at the Philadelphia Navy Yard from 1922 to 1959, and was on display at Pier 11 at the Benjamin Franklin Bridge through the 1960s until 1976, when it was moved to Penn's Landing. Today, the vessel is the world's oldest floating steel warship. "The Navy has been in discussions with the museum to come up with a disposition plan if they can no longer operate it," said Patricia Dolan, a Navy spokeswoman. "Any plan for disposal of the vessel - scrapping or reefing - will have to be approved by the Navy."
The thought of scuttling the naval time capsule - filled with paintings, photos, and artifacts - has raised the ire of historians.
"It will be a national disgrace and major embarrassment for Philadelphia and Pennsylvania if Olympia is disposed of by scrapping or being sunk off the coast of New Jersey," said naval historian Lawrence Burr, who has produced documentaries and written four books, including U.S. Cruisers 1883-1904: The Birth of the Steel Navy.
"Neither the Spanish navy in 1898 nor the German navy in 1917-18 was able to sink Olympia," he said. "It will be ironic if the State of New Jersey is able to sink this unique historic warship that has been in the care of Philadelphia and Pennsylvania for over 50 years, and who have benefited from its role as a tourist attraction. . . .
"If sunk, she will only be seen by a small elite who are able to dive, with the risk that she will be plundered for souvenirs," he said.
Also expressing disappointment was the nonprofit Theodore Roosevelt Association in Oyster Bay, N.Y. Congress chartered the group in 1920 to perpetuate the legacy of Roosevelt, who was assistant secretary of the Navy before the Spanish-American War and ordered the Olympia furnished with extra coal so it could be sent to the Philippines. Roosevelt resigned from his office and served as a colonel in the Rough Riders during the invasion of Cuba.
The possible sinking of the Olympia "is an outrage," said Howard Ehrlich, executive director of the association. "You would think veterans groups would get together and lobby the Navy to save the ship."
Even sinking the 5,600-ton ship would be costly. Because of the ship's 211/2-foot draft, the basin where it is berthed would have to be dredged so the vessel could be moved to dry dock. There, it would be structurally reinforced so it could be safely towed down the Delaware River to the reef location.
"No decision has been made," McLane said. "This is not what we want to do. In these tough economic times, everybody is forced to make tough decisions."
Mike Meister Monday, May 24, 2010 at 19:5:57   205.188.116.12
esink - yes I did send for the special cancels. And yes, my covers and #10 all came back overcancelled at San Diego on 5/21.
Roger Wentworth Monday, May 24, 2010 at 18:5:21   98.18.134.197
Now I am glad I didn't send for any Rose Festival cancels.
Mike Brock Monday, May 24, 2010 at 17:20:45   71.237.135.205
Also received USS OBSERVATION ISLAND covers from Cape Canaveral. Nice strikes.
Mike Brock Monday, May 24, 2010 at 17:19:39   71.237.135.205
I received an empty envelope from the USS BUNKER HILL CG-52. If anyone receives covers & postcards dated 5-11-10 from the ship, please let me know. Thanks. meabrock@comcast.net
esink Monday, May 24, 2010 at 16:50:57   71.207.33.205
Mike Meister/ I am assuming you were sending covers for the special Rose Festival postmark...When did you send them and did you ask them to hold the covers until during the Festival? I am wondering if similar treatment is going to happen for covers sent by the rest of us for the special postmark...
Greg Ciesielski Monday, May 24, 2010 at 14:39:3   75.178.82.150
Recovering from the weekend at the Air Show. It was a great time and I also got to sit and talk with a Gold Star mother who's son postomousely (sp?) received the Medal of Honor for his action in Afghanistan in 2006.
Mike Meister Monday, May 24, 2010 at 14:7:26   205.188.116.12
Recieved my USS Bunker Hill covers today - both covers and the #10 postmarked with the regular cancel and overcancelled at San Diego!
esink Monday, May 24, 2010 at 9:12:54   71.207.33.205
Good Morning...
CC Jake Sunday, May 23, 2010 at 19:10:35   24.2.178.105
Ahoy Master Chief & how are you this fine day??
CC Jake Sunday, May 23, 2010 at 14:2:40   24.2.178.105
BBL
CC Jake Sunday, May 23, 2010 at 14:1:54   24.2.178.105
Thanks Steve for the info on John London
CC Jake Sunday, May 23, 2010 at 14:1:7   24.2.178.105
Ahoy Roger
Yep, great day here for fishing, time to get the Fly Rod out for sure
Roger Wentworth Sunday, May 23, 2010 at 13:59:46   98.18.134.197
Hey Elgin! Its nice outside and I'm in my creek a lot or fishing.
Steve Shay Sunday, May 23, 2010 at 10:41:52   12.72.158.182
Jake, John London was member 4430 and he passed away in November 2008.
Dan Jacobs aka CC Jake Sunday, May 23, 2010 at 3:30:51   24.2.178.105
Does anyone know if John E. London of East Meadow,NY was a member of the USCS??
esink Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 23:42:50   71.207.33.205
I was enjoying the great outdoors and good weather today also...While visiting Pine Grove Furnace State Park, we were on a small segment of the Appalachian Trail and my wife, and a couple others in our group saw a mountain lion. Another person and I had dropped back about 40 feet and unfortunately we missed it.
Dave Kent Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 22:44:37   72.195.145.51
We're all out enjoying the nice spring weather.... Time to plant the garden.
esink Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 16:50:0   71.207.33.205
No posts since 8:42:21 this morning? What's going on? Where am I...?
esink Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 8:42:21   71.207.33.205
Good Morning...
Roger Wentworth Friday, May 21, 2010 at 17:2:44   98.18.134.197
Also covers back from USS T.ROOSEVELT cancelled on Sir Arthur Conan Doyel's birthday as requested.Has anyone gotten any covers back from the USS LINCOLN recently. Something is really haywire in their post office.
Roger Wentworth Friday, May 21, 2010 at 16:57:14   98.18.134.197
Me too on USCGC Waesche cancels. Good strikes indeed!
Mike Brock Friday, May 21, 2010 at 16:55:10   71.237.135.205
I received covers today for the Commissioning of USCGC Waesche in Alameda CA. Nice cancels.
Don Tjossem Friday, May 21, 2010 at 15:51:30   98.125.227.172
From the Navy News Service May 21st1850 - Washington Navy Yard begins work on first castings for the Dahlgren guns.
1917 - USS Ericsson fires first torpedo of war.
1944 - Accidental explosion on board an LST unloading ammunition in West Loch, Pearl Harbor, and the resulting fire and other explosions sink five LSTs.
1964 - The initiation of the standing carrier presence at Yankee Station in the South China Sea.
From the Navy News Service May 22nd
1882 - Commodore Shufeldt signs commerce treaty opening Korea to U.S. trade.
1958 - Naval aircraft F4D-1 Sky Ray sets five world speed-to-climb records, May 22-23.
1967 - New York City reaches agreement to purchase Brooklyn Navy Yard, ending 166 years of construction and repair of naval vessels.
1968 - USS Scorpion (SSN 589) is lost with all hands.
From the Navy News Service May 23rd
1850 - Navy sends USS Advance and USS Rescue to attempt rescue of Sir John Franklin's expedition, lost in Arctic.
1939 - USS Squalus (SS 92) sinks off Portsmouth, N.H., with loss of 26 lives.
1962 - Launch of Aurora 7 (Mercury 7), piloted by Lt. Cmdr. Malcolm Scott Carpenter who completed three orbits in four hours, 56 minutes, at an altitude up to 166.8 statute miles at 17,549 mph.
1962 - USS Valcour (AVP 55) provides medical care to a merchant seaman from tanker SS Manhattan in the Persian Gulf.
For more information about naval history, visit the Naval Historical Center Web site at:
http://www.history.navy.mil.
Janie Kent Friday, May 21, 2010 at 11:10:7   75.225.180.222
I would like to renew my memebership
Don Tjossem Friday, May 21, 2010 at 10:56:45   98.125.166.16
Rich,
Sounds like a collector's item to me!
esink Friday, May 21, 2010 at 8:47:1   71.207.33.205
Good Morning...
BMCM Jones 3933 Friday, May 21, 2010 at 0:15:35   72.188.40.91
USS Texas (SSN 775) departed Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam for a scheduled deployment to the U.S. 4th Fleet area of responsibility Wednesday, May 19.
Rich Hoffner Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 20:46:14   68.80.86.203
Opps Dept. Just got a note from a collector that my printer put PARGO on the chapter SARGO covers. Well, I fired the printer! Oh, I am the printer. What would The Donald say? Your fired! If you got one, send it back and I'll send a replacement.
Don Tjossem Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 17:53:52   98.125.166.16
From the Navy News Service May 20th1801 - Four warships sent to Mediterranean to protect American commerce.
1815 - Commodore Stephen Decatur (Frigate Guerriere) sails with 10 ships to suppress Mediterranean pirate raids on U.S. shipping.
1844 - USS Constitution sails from New York on 'round-the-world cruise.
1943 - Establishment of 10th Fleet in Washington, D.C., under command of Adm. King, to coordinate U.S. antisubmarine operations in Atlantic.
Rich Hoffner Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 17:25:37   68.80.86.203
Covers back today for commissioning of USCGC Waesche in Alameda CA and USS Observation Island, missile launch anniversary from Cape Canaveral, FL. All covers with perfectly applied cancels. Covers from Alameda had a note apologising for being late. Had an all purpose chop on the letter dated 5-17-10. Cancel reads Coast Guard Br, USPS, Alameda CA 94501. If you want to try for this cancel send to Postmaster, Attn: Cecilia, USPS Sales Associate, USCG Branch, Alameda CA 94501-1265.
Rich Hoffner Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 17:20:42   68.80.86.203
CC Jake, how about double deck pinochle with partners and auction bids?
Rich Hoffner Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 17:18:6   68.80.86.203
JY - update on the beer coaster collectors annual conflab. For the first time, they are having Philadelphia soft pretzels, cheese steaks, Tasty Kakes and Yuengling in their hospitality room. Enjoy yourself next weekend. Oh, Canada!
Dan Jacobs AKA CC Jake Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 17:14:48   24.2.178.105
Ahoy Rich, two more & we'll have enough for poker
Dan Jacobs AKA CC Jake Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 17:6:24   24.2.178.105
Ahoy Elgin
esink Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 8:30:59   71.207.33.205
Welcome back, Larry...
Rich Nallenweg Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 8:8:2   96.36.92.131
LOG arrived in Western NC yesterday!
esink Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 7:48:55   71.207.33.205
Good Morning...
don campbell Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 23:43:31   68.226.97.65
E Sink& Mike Brock; Thanks for the info on Portland. I lived in Beaverton, OR for twelve years. Will try for covers.
Don C.
Dennis Brophy Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 19:14:52   74.239.83.153
Log arrived in SC today!!!
Roger Wentworth Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 15:14:16   98.18.134.197
Hi Dave Kent,
Stamps arrived yesterday. Will send you something in return for them this week. Thanks!
Roger Wentworth Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 14:54:20   98.18.134.197
Congrats Larry B. on your Honeyman award! You desrve it! I met Stanton at very first ever USCS Convention in McLean, Va. Quite a nice fellow. He took me around and introduced me to everyone, and all the dealers.
Roger Wentworth Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 14:51:44   98.18.134.197
Hello Elgin!
Steve Shay Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 14:47:23   12.238.10.2
Bill, I sort of collect holiday covers too and a quick search in my incomplete data base shows I have 51 covers with Flag Day cancels. I run into them quite often while looking in dealer stock.
esink Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 14:45:15   71.207.33.205
Roger/I have that booklet on Canal Zone Naval covers which I bought from Bob Karrer shortly after I returned from a cruise through the Panama Canal several years ago...a superb item!
Roger Wentworth Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 14:18:54   98.18.134.197
The first naval cover that I ever saw was back in 1975. It was a USS HANNIBAL with Balboa Canal Zone in the killer bars. At that time I did not collect navals, but only Canal Zone and U.S. Possessions covers. So, I then started collecting naval covers with Canal Zone killer references, and other U.S. Possessions killer references. My friend Bob Karrer of the Isthmian Collectors Club and I published a booklet on Canal Zone Naval covers. The USCS and the Canal Zone Study Group published it jointly, and it won a Cardinal Spellman Silver Award for Philatelic Literature. I have the certificate framed on my hobby room wall. Bob recently did a second edition of the booklet and added many new killer slogans with C.Z. references to it. Bob and I also did a booklet of U.S.F. Constitution covers from her trip though the Panama Canal. The USCS also published it as well.
Roger Wentworth Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 13:39:9   98.18.134.197
Bill Nestor,
I don't collect Flag Day covers, but I do make some every year with my own cachets to sell.
Roger Wentworth Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 13:37:32   98.18.134.197
Rich,
I forgot! I do collect the cancels with foreign ports in the killer bars from the classic period.
Roger Wentworth Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 13:9:15   98.18.134.197
John Young,
I enjoyed your article! My first category of naval collecting was holiday covers. I still make holiday covers with my cachets on them as well.
Dave Kent Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 11:54:23   72.195.145.51
Roses grow very well in Portland and the city has been hosting an annual rose festival at least since the early 1930s, based on covers I've seen.
john young Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 9:23:22   69.116.43.222
Bill Nestor: I have several Flag Day covers in My
holiday collection.
Believe USS TEXAS was first to place the slogan
FLAG DAY in killers (1932)
First printed cachet by Ed Bryan, Lewis & Clark
Stamp Society, posted on 14 JUN 1933 by mail clerk (John Lawrence) @ Naval Ammo Depot, Hawthorne NV - same envelopes used aboard USS
SAN FRANCISCO for Flag Day 1934
Decatur Chapter #4 (Richard Green) used a stamped cachet depicting Betsy Ross' House flying
flag, posted aboard USS MINNEAPOLIS in 1934.
Most of the Fleet was still in New York City
on Flag Day 1934- they left on June 18. 1934 to
visit east coast ports.
esink Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 9:4:7   71.207.33.205
Don/Here's the website for the Rose Festival: http://www.rosefestival.org/events/fleet/
Mike Brock Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 1:21:14   71.237.135.205
Thanks Dave for your answer to my question.Don...the USS BUNKER HILL & USS SAMPSON arrive in Portland on June 3rd.
Greg Ciesielski Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at 1:7:53   75.178.82.150
I'm still up, is the hospitality room still going? I have beer....Rich H - 7 more pictorial designs headed your way.
Thanks to all for the help with Adm. Knapp
don campbell Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 23:54:54   68.226.97.65
When is thePortland Rose Festival?
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 22:57:57   68.80.86.203
USS Sampson design will be similar to USS Bunker Hill T-F for the Portland Rose Festival.
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 22:56:31   68.80.86.203
From our NW coast affiliates, the USS Sampson DDG 103 has approved a pictorial for Portland Rose Festival. Supply Department says they will use it one day and destroy it. Ships FPO is 96678-1303. Thanks to Greg C for another nice job on its design.
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 22:50:58   68.80.86.203
As for collecting RW cachets, I certainly concentrate on the postmarks with all the strength I can muster. Generally I am a cancel collector and disregard the cachet portion of the cover no matter how distracting the cachet is! Besides its in our Soceity's name "cancellation".
Dave Kent Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 22:36:47   72.195.145.51
Mike: it was 1946 that the Navy decided they would no longer have post offices on submarines. Obviously quite a few have sprouted postmarks in the years since, but they have not had operating post offices, which sell stamps and accept registered mail and packages, aboard them.
bill nestor Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 22:13:15   71.166.98.222
Anyone out there collect Flag Day cancels and cachets from navy ships?
Jim McDevitt Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 22:2:35   70.146.196.38
May Log II arrived in Mobile this morning with front and rear pages mangled. John W and Rich H. - will also bring some picture cards and photos I no longer need to NOJEX.
Steve Shay Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 21:45:54   12.72.158.250
The Navy and the San Francisco police department are doing a joint exercise with trained a dolphin and sea lion that are supposed to be capable of finding underwater terrorist threats and the sea lion can even put cuffs on a suspect underwater. This was an interesting piece on the local news tonight.
Roger Wentworth Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 18:13:17   98.18.135.170
Covers back from Groton today with USS TRITON pictorials.
Mike Brock Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 14:25:9   71.237.135.205
Can anyone tell me the year the USN removed post offices from submarines? Thanks.
Roger Wentworth Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 12:51:9   98.18.135.170
John,
I collect naval covers because of the history, and the artwork on the covers. Never have focused on cancels though.
Roger Wentworth Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 12:48:55   98.18.135.170
Rich,
I got the same results from Bremerton! Absolute crap!
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 2:25:28   68.80.86.203
If you are wondering why I am us so late, I am practicing for the hospitality room, as one of the last to leave it for many years. Some of us could consider it an olympic event, how long we hold out and who locks the door on the way out! So, get ready, have a few power drinks and the game is on in Secaucus in a less then two weeks!
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 2:22:15   68.80.86.203
Ebay number for USS Pueblo card: 270578973048
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 2:21:39   68.80.86.203
Interesting postal card from N. Korea with pic and stamp for USS Pueblo on eBay. Seller in Ireland.
CC Jake Monday, May 17, 2010 at 23:51:56   24.2.178.105
Roger W.
If you go to Wensy Home page, scroll down till you see stamps, click on that, when you get to the Stamp page, click on United States, scroll down till you see covers, click on that, scroll down till you see Naval.
Anyway try this link, hope it works.
http://wensy.com/catalog.asp?catid=7553
esink Monday, May 17, 2010 at 21:58:56   71.207.33.205
...or how about "walking the plank", Rich.
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 17, 2010 at 21:51:51   68.80.86.203
Interesting article on piracy below. SO, can't we just hang pirates? Would solve the problem of keeping them in jail and feeding them. Or, how about keel hauling? If they survive, they get a ride home, if not, burial at sea seems just. What would Capt. Michael A. "Hell Roaring Mike" Healy of the U S Revenue Marine have done?
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 17, 2010 at 21:41:14   68.80.86.203
Covers back with pictorial from Bremerton WA for Armed Forces Day, a complete disaster. E-mail out to district to work out replacements and refund on ruined postage. I can't believe that someone would spend the time to place such poor strikes on covers. I guess some people have no pride in the work they do.
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 17, 2010 at 21:36:41   68.80.86.203
Very interesting question "why do we collect naval covers", considering it comes from a beer coaster collector.
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 17, 2010 at 21:35:21   68.80.86.203
Appears Rear Adm Knapp was military governor of the Dominican Republic in mid 1910's. But, search of names in confusing, with some sites listing him as Rear Adm. Harry Knapp.
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 17, 2010 at 21:33:32   68.80.86.203
I missed a great USCS convention in Secaucus a few years back, the one with the cake in the shape of the battleship USS New Jersey. Perhaps Howard Tiffner will bake another one?
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 17, 2010 at 21:31:13   68.80.86.203
CWO McDevitt, all USCG covers interest me. JY is kidding, he only collects beer coasters now. Really deep into them, no more USCG for him! Was a closet collector before he was outted!
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 17, 2010 at 21:28:45   68.80.86.203
Wensy.com - neer hear of it, but then ecrater was new to me.I just put over 400 items on eBay with prooceeds going to Decatur Chapter. Seller: cgcoverguy
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 17, 2010 at 21:26:27   68.80.86.203
So far no contact with USS SAMPSON to provide T-F cancel at Portland Rose Festival. If it happens, we will hear from Mike Brock.
tkaczkowski Monday, May 17, 2010 at 20:13:42   71.61.126.175
Log arrived in Pittsburgh today.
bill nestor Monday, May 17, 2010 at 19:47:32   71.179.192.103
Greg below is a link to a picture of Rear Admiral Henry R. Knapp. That's about all I can find about him.
http://www.genealogyimagesofhistory.com/images/funstondeath.JPG
Jim McDevitt Monday, May 17, 2010 at 18:52:30   68.220.163.44
John & Rich - I see John mentioned my Waesche FAM-18 cover. If I bring it to NOJEX would one of you be interested in it?Enjoy a safe trip to NOJEX.
esink Monday, May 17, 2010 at 8:53:2   71.207.33.205
Good Morning...Yes, "postal" historians.
Rich Nallenweg Monday, May 17, 2010 at 8:49:41   24.176.83.214
John,
I think we collect naval covers becuase deep down we are historians
john young Monday, May 17, 2010 at 6:1:51   69.116.43.222
Why do we collect naval covers?
Greg Ciesielski Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 22:24:27   75.178.82.150
Help Request. I have a short article from July 1920 that mentions a Rear Admiral Henry R. Knapp. I can find no info on him. Does anybody have a good place to find his photo/bio? Thanks!
Roger Wentworth Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 10:47:5   98.18.133.211
Covers back from Groton yesterday for USS PATRICK HENRY anniver. pictorials. WOW! That was fast! Excellent strikes.
Also covers back from Norfolk with USS NIMITZ anniv. pictorials.
esink Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 9:34:14   71.207.33.205
Good Morning...
esink Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 23:54:40   71.207.33.205
YUP...but good issue anyhow.
Dave Kent Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 23:15:38   72.195.145.51
Elgin's just daying that because I used a couple of postmarks that he provided as space fillers.
esink Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 22:35:34   71.207.33.205
Dave Kent/Great issue of MPHS (spring) BULLETIN received in New Cumberland, PA today...
Dennis Brophy Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 19:12:48   98.17.116.22
No Log yet in Sunny SC.
BMCM Jones 3933 Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 14:54:49   72.188.40.91
The British aircraft carrier Ark Royal will arrive Friday, joining six other Royal Navy ships and a French submarine for a joint maritime operation exercise with the U.S. Navy.Ark Royal’s 800 sailors will join the British frigate Sutherland, destroyer Liverpool, fleet replenishment ship Fort George, landing ship dock Largs Bay and assault ships Albion and Ocean, according to a Navy news release. The French submarine Perle will also join the exercise with the U.S. guided missile destroyer Barry and amphibious assault ship Kearsage. There are about 2,000 sailors participating in the exercise.
The British deployment, called AURIGA, is a major 2010 deployment to exercise on the eastern seaboard of North America and in the western Atlantic, the news release said. The group deployed from the United Kingdom in April.
All of the AURIGA multinational Naval Task Group, except the Ark Royal, arrived in Norfolk no May 11. The sailors will spend the weekend sightseeing, shopping and attending sporting events in Hampton Roads before the exercise begins.
The multinational exercise will take place off the U.S. and Canadian coasts. The exercises include training in traditional war-fighting areas of carrier strike, amphibious assault and anti-submarine warfare operations. Some of the task group will also participate in the international fleet review in Halifax, celebrating the centennial of the Canadian Navy.
tkaczkowski Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 14:20:15   71.61.126.175
No Log yet in Pittsburgh
Dave Kent Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 11:55:35   72.195.145.51
I've been to NOJEX so many times I just say "NOJEX" to the car and it drives itself. Who needs a GPS?
john young Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 11:46:7   69.116.43.222
Steve Shay:
It was probably done by a French Jesuit. Was it
red ink or black ink? Wonder if the dealer will be coming to NOJEX. Will have to beat Hoffner to
the box.
Rich Hoffner: Are you driving or flying to NOJEX.
I'll send you directions, better than Mapquest.
Steve Shay Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 10:26:23   12.72.158.54
John, I just saw that cover in a box at WESTPEX. The Latin writing looked to be added on at a later date so I put it back.
john young Saturday, May 15, 2010 at 7:38:7   64.12.116.12
Today, Armed Forces Day & Natinal Police Memorial
Day. Just held colors- flying the flag at half mast by adding a mourning band (black ribbon).
Wish to thank the troops overseas- that protect
us from the maddness of the terrorists and the men & women that patrol our streets & highways.Rich Hoffner: Changed my mind- will attend USCS
Convention in the Meadowlands- sold all my beer
coasters to local pub owners that sells imported
beer from Pennsylvania
Will be at Secausus- to join you in the hunt for
launch cover of 1791 Revenue Cutter Massachsetts.
Rumour has it, it might be un-cacheted, stampless
and written in Latin
esink Friday, May 14, 2010 at 22:54:35   71.207.33.205
Thanks, Mike
Mike Brock Friday, May 14, 2010 at 22:51:50   71.237.135.205
Hi Elgin...As of right now...no...but maybe.
esink Friday, May 14, 2010 at 22:26:21   71.207.33.205
Mike/Will the SAMPSON have the special postmark like the BUNKER HILL?
Mike Brock Friday, May 14, 2010 at 21:40:56   71.237.135.205
2010 Rose Festival Fleet
United States NavyUSS Bunker Hill (CG 52)
USS Sampson (DDG 102)
Canadian Maritime Forces
HMCS Vancouver
United States Coast Guard
USCGC Alert
USCGC Fir
USCGC Bluebell
USCGC Henry Blake
USCGC Blue Shark
Triumph
USCGC Bertholf*
[* Not available for tours. Ship located on Swan Island]
Army Corps of Engineers
ACOE Redlinger
Historic Ships
Sternwheeler Portland
PT 658
Mike Brock Friday, May 14, 2010 at 15:52:1   71.237.135.205
Covers arrived in Oregon from Norfolk for the USS NIMITZ 35th. Great cancels from Hervey.
Roger Wentworth Friday, May 14, 2010 at 14:49:48   98.18.133.211
Rich,
What category are the covers in on Wensy.com?
Roger Wentworth Friday, May 14, 2010 at 14:37:51   98.18.133.211
Elgin,
Its nice outside, so we are all out there instead of in here. LOL! I myself, just got out of the creek next to my home after swimming for a while. I got so hot from pulling weeds, that I "acidently" fell in. LOL!
Steve Shay Friday, May 14, 2010 at 14:25:26   12.238.10.2
It's not your imagination Elgin.
esink Friday, May 14, 2010 at 11:36:45   71.207.33.205
Is it my imagination or have things slowed down on the chatroom?
esink Friday, May 14, 2010 at 8:32:24   71.207.33.205
Good Morning...
Dan Jacobs AKA CC Jake Thursday, May 13, 2010 at 21:42:41   24.2.178.105
Rich Nallenweg There are several Naval cover sellers at Wensy.com, it is a completely free auction site, no listing fees, no final sales fees.
Right now it appears there are are 150 Naval covers up for sale, by three or four sellers.
The owner/webmaster of this site bought out Stampoffers.com last year and most, if not all members of SO went over to Wensy. They are much like e-bay, as they not only stamps & coins, they have a little of everything.
I've picked up a few Naval Covers there in the last few months, prices are a lot cheaper, as sellers can sell for less where there are no fees of any kind.
Dan Jacobs AKA CC Jake Thursday, May 13, 2010 at 21:25:41   24.2.178.105
Log Arrived here today in the land of Sea Shells & Sanddunes
Dan Goodwin Thursday, May 13, 2010 at 17:44:46   74.75.15.30
Log arrived today.
Steve Shay Thursday, May 13, 2010 at 10:52:19   12.238.10.2
Quiet Resistance To Women On Subs
(NEW YORK TIMES 12 MAY 10) ... Janie LorberWASHINGTON — Midshipman Jessica Wilcox, who graduates from the United States Naval Academy in Annapolis this month, said she first pictured herself aboard a submarine when she was a “dreamy young person,” long before women were allowed to join the nation’s nuclear submarine service.
Now, she is among the first group of women to be tapped for the elite force, one of the military’s last all-male bastions.
She is ready to break into the fraternity, even though it means being submerged for three months at a time in a space no wider than a motor home, outnumbered 70 to 1 by men, many of whom will not want her there.
“I just feel blessed,” Ms. Wilcox, 21, of Honesdale, Pa., said recently in a phone interview. “Each individual branch of the service has its ups and downs.”
The Navy announced last month that it would place women on submarine crews. By January 2012, after 15 months of training, a total of 19 women will be assigned to four ballistic missile submarines based in Bangor, Wash., and Kings Bay, Ga.
Aboard the ships, the women will share a bedroom so small that only one person can stand up at a time. When they want to use the bathroom — just two showers and two toilets for 15 officers — they will hang a sign on the door that says “women only.” To move from bedroom to bathroom, they will walk corridors so narrow that two sailors cannot pass without pressing against each other.
But while the decision opens a prestigious career path to women and increases the Navy’s recruiting pool for submarine postings, it has been met with quiet resistance within what has long been proudly called “the Silent Service,” according to active-duty and retired submariners.
The development comes amid other changes that threaten 110 years of tradition in the brotherhood, including a ban on smoking on submarines, effective Dec. 31, and the anticipated unwinding of the “don’t ask, don’t tell,” policy that bars openly gay men and lesbians from serving in the military.
John Mason, a retired senior chief petty officer who served aboard four submarines and two surface ships from 1977 to 1994, began preparing an online petition opposing the integration of women this spring. So far, Mr. Mason has collected the signatures and comments of nearly 550 retired and active-duty military personnel, as well as their spouses — all of whom argue that submarines are no place for women.
Privately, many active-duty sailors said they believed that the decision was made for political reasons, not operational ones. A sailor who has served on a fast-attack submarine based in Pearl Harbor since 2005 said that pregnancy would undoubtedly end up disrupting missions and that the cramped ships could not accommodate women.
“The chief of the boat calls it a brotherhood of master mariners — not a brother and sisterhood,” said the sailor, who withheld his name because he was disagreeing with official Navy policy. “If all of a sudden they put females on my submarine, things would change so drastically, I don’t think we would be able to flow as well.”
Mr. Mason said the presence of women on submarines would put an end to the kind of camaraderie “that involves close physical contact, like man hugs and bottom pats” that sailors use to cope with the pressure of extended deployments.
The issue of allowing women on submarines has been considered and rejected several times since 1994 when women were allowed to serve on surface ships, usually with the argument that it was too expensive to retrofit submarines for both sexes. Several allied countries allow women to serve aboard submarines, but their ships rarely deploy for as long as American ones.
Rear Adm. Barry L. Bruner, who led a task force investigating the issue, has addressed the controversy on his blog, saying the integration of women was necessary to maintain American dominance beneath the seas.
“We’ve looked hard at the impediments to successful implementation of the plan,” Admiral Bruner, the commander of Submarine Group 10, based at Kings Bay, wrote when the policy was changed. “Given the need and the more open attitude of the current generation of submariners, I continue to feel that this change to policy is needed to maintain the readiness of the most operationally active Submarine Service in the world.”
At first, female officers will be assigned only to the Navy’s largest submarines, known as boomers, equipped with long-range nuclear-tipped missiles. The Navy will then consider allowing enlisted women to join the submarine force and whether to make the necessary changes to accommodate women on the smaller fast-attack submarines.
Misty Webster, another midshipman bound for submarine service, conceded that the size of the submarines could make integrating more complicated, though she said women at the Naval Academy never felt they were denied opportunities under the old policy.
More important, Ms. Webster, 21, of Wesley Chapel, Fla., said that after she spent a full day on a submarine, she felt as though she had found her niche.
“I felt like I fit in more than in any other community in the Navy,” she said.
Steve Shay Thursday, May 13, 2010 at 10:50:23   12.238.10.2
Sad news for our friends to the North:Cash-Strapped Navy Being Cut To Bone, Analysts Say
(OTTAWA CITIZEN (CANADA) 12 MAY 10) ... David Pugliese
As celebrations continue for its 100th anniversary, Canada's navy has announced what defence analysts say is a major reduction in the number of ships available for service.
The move, sparked by budget problems, will leave the navy a shell of its former self, according to analysts.
The fleet of Kingston-class maritime coastal defence vessels will be reduced from 12 to six ships and three frigates, HMCS Montreal, St John's and Vancouver will now be conducting domestic and continental missions to a "limited degree," according to a letter sent to naval formations by the service's commander Vice Admiral Dean McFadden.
Combat systems on HMCS Toronto and HMCS Ottawa will be "minimally supported to enable safe to navigate sensors and communications only," states the letter written April 23 and released to the Ottawa Citizen on Wednesday. The same will happen to the destroyer HMCS Athabaskan, it added.
A key weapon system on board the Protecteur-class supply ships designed to destroy incoming missiles "will not be supported," it added. Some anti-submarine warfare capabilities for the navy's destroyer fleet will also not be supported.
"I have had to make difficult choices that will directly impact fleet capability and availability this year and possibly for the medium term," wrote McFadden.
Funding issues are behind the moves and even though the navy and Defence Department successfully argued for additional money, "a shortfall still remains," he added.
McFadden noted that the reductions are being done to ensure that the navy's top priorities, the Victoria-class submarines as well as the modernization of the Halifax-class frigates, are supported as fully as possible.
Defence analyst Martin Shadwick said the move cuts the navy to the bone. "The sheer percentage of the fleet that will be unavailable is staggering," said Shadwick, a York University strategic studies professor. "It leaves the navy in the medium term with very limited capability."
Liberal senator Colin Kenny, the former chairman of the senate's defence committee, said the reductions are a major blow to the navy. "This is some happy 100th birthday isn't it?" he said, referring to the May 4 celebrations of the navy's century of service. "It means for the next few years there won't be much of a navy."
Still, Kenny said McFadden should be commended for making the right moves in dealing with the lack of money. "If the Harper government is screwing him this badly I think he is making the right decision to protect the core of the navy," Kenny said.
Defence Minister Peter MacKay's office could not comment on the letter released publicly by the navy on Wednesday.
But in a letter published in the National Post on Wednesday, MacKay highlighted that the government is laying the groundwork for the future navy. "Our government's defence blueprint is providing the navy with what it needs to serve Canadians on our three coasts and internationally," MacKay wrote.
McFadden's letter warns of the difficulties the navy will face because of the reductions. "I fully recognize the challenge that these capability reductions will cause the navy, particularly as the HCM (Halifax-class modernization) program ramps up and the number of hulls available for force generation and force employment is reduced," he wrote.
Smaller vessels will also be affected. Support for auxiliary vessel maintenance will be reduced by approximately 60 per cent, McFadden wrote.
Some sailors had contacted the Citizen to say that a number of ships would be decommissioned. But McFadden stressed that this was not the case. "It is important to note that when the letter indicates that a class of ships will be reduced this does not, in any way, direct the disposing of assets; it simply indicates that some ships will go into Extended Readiness," he wrote to the Citizen.
HMCS Winnipeg, Fredericton, Calgary and Charlottetown will be fully supported and capable of achieving high readiness, according to McFadden. HMCS Algonquin will be supported at a reduced state of high readiness.
The status of two other frigates will be determined later. A seventh Kingston-class vessel will be used for training this summer.
Retired vice admiral Peter Cairns said that there have been rumours around the navy about ships going to be tied up because of a lack of money. "The general feeling is there is not enough operating money for the navy, particularly in light of the costs of the operations in Afghanistan," said Cairns, president of the Shipbuilding Association of Canada
Cairns said he had heard the navy was going to dock some of the Kingston-class vessels but he is concerned that once that is done, the ships might not be going back to sea. "Once you tie one up some smart people in government say 'you haven't run with it for a year so why do you still need it?," Cairns explained.
Steve Shay Thursday, May 13, 2010 at 10:48:37   12.238.10.2
Somali Pirates Vary Tactics, Use Gulf Dhows
(REUTERS 12 MAY 10) ... Erika SolomonABU DHABI -- Somali pirates have become bolder and more inventive, staging increasing attacks despite ramped up international efforts to thwart them, delegates to an Indian Ocean Naval Symposium said.
Once limited to areas near the Somali coast, pirates also now hijack the traditional and less detectable wooden trade boats that ply Gulf waters, to use as motherships from which to launch more distant attacks with their smaller, nimbler skiffs.
"Piracy is expanding," Nirmal Verma, chief of Indian naval staff, told Reuters on the sidelines of the symposium. "It's come to a point where you have non-state actors occupying strategic spaces. That never happened before."
"In 2005, piracy didn't extend miles off the Somali coast. Today, the latest attempts were about 1,000 miles away," he said.
Once sailing vessels at the mercy of ocean breezes, wooden Gulf dhows are now motorised and made large enough to carry tons of foodstuffs and even cars. The wooden vessels can slip past radar scans, but also withstand the rough high seas.
Dhow owners in the United Arab Emirates, a major dhow hub, complained in March that their boats were increasingly targeted by pirates, and some had halted trade to Somali ports as a result, Emirati media have said.
In what some delegates said were increasing attacks, Somali pirates now hold some 400 sailors hostage overall. The London-based International Maritime Bureau said attacks were at a 6-year high in 2009.
Foreign navies have been deployed off the Gulf of Aden, where nearly 20,000 vessels pass yearly, since early 2009 and naval officers say the area has become more secure because of the use of convoys and monitoring of transit corridors.
SIGN OF DESPERATION
But the vast expanses of the Indian Ocean inevitably leave ships vulnerable in pirate-infested waters. Piracy has cost tens of millions of dollars in ransoms.
"The pirates adapt new methods. Every time we suppress piracy, they change their tactics," said Ibrahim Mohamed al Musharrakh, commander of the United Arab Emirate's naval forces.
French and Australian naval commanders said they were optimistic that increasing cooperation in counter-piracy efforts would improve results. Australia's naval chief Russell Crane saw attacks far out at sea as a sign of desperation.
"That mean's we're having a positive influence closer to the coast, and it's driving pirates into more dangerous territory," he said. "The further out you go, the more difficult the task."
Even when authorities do nab pirates, they are often released because of vagaries in international law and the expense of detention and prosecution.
Russian sailors released Somali pirates into the open sea after their failed attempt last week to hijack a Russian oil tanker. Russian officials said there had been no grounds to prosecute them in Russia.
"We need a more comprehensive understanding for application of international law in domestic legislation," Crane said. "It's difficult to ensure proper prosecution because countries are independent nations with independent views."
But even convicted pirates are problematic. Overburdened East African countries complain they can't afford to keep pirates in jail indefinitely.
"Our prisons are congested with over 150 pirates. They're putting a drain on our prisons and judiciary," Kenyan navy commander S.J. Mwathethe said.
A member of the Seychelles delegation, who asked not to be named, said his country sends prisoners to a prison established by the United Nations in Somaliland.
Steve Shay Thursday, May 13, 2010 at 10:47:34   12.238.10.2
SECNAV Visits USS New Mexico
(NAVY NEWS SERVICE 12 MAY 10) ... Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Kevin S. O'BrienFT. LAUDERDALE, Fla. -- Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus visited Sailors aboard the Navy's newest Virginia-class submarine, USS New Mexico (SSN 779), during his first submarine embark as secretary May 11.
Mabus experienced the ship's movement during angles and dangles, high speed turns, and standing on the bridge in the ship's sail while the submarine was surfaced.
"This has been such an informative day. I am amazed at the level of skill and the level of expertise of our Sailors," Mabus said. "The ability to fully operate a Virginia-class submarine and all of its complex systems is truly remarkable. Our Sailors continually show that they are the best trained and the best skilled force our nation has seen."
Mabus also took part in a submarine warfare qualification pinning known as the Dolphin Ceremony. It recognizes enlisted and officers' completion of a yearlong qualification process that familiarizes them with virtually all of the submarine's systems. Mabus pinned the newly acquired submarine warfare insignia on Lt.j.g. Vincent Bove and Sonar Technician Seaman Kyle Hassler.
"This has been an extraordinary experience for me. The reason I'm here today is to thank you for you service," Mabus said. "Your expertise is so crucial to the Navy's mission. Because of your vital role, you spend more time away from home and your families. I want you to know that I appreciate you and your families' service and sacrifice."
New Mexico is the sixth submarine of the Virginia-class. It has improved stealth, sophisticated surveillance capabilities and special warfare enhancements to meet the challenges of the 21st century and the Navy's multi-mission requirements.
Phil Schreiber Thursday, May 13, 2010 at 10:1:48   67.85.178.163
good morning John!
esink Thursday, May 13, 2010 at 7:24:57   71.207.33.205
Good Morning...
Steve Shay Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 19:50:23   12.72.157.116
Log received in Michigan and the Bay Area today too.
Steve Shay Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 17:31:18   12.238.10.2
Good story Roger.
Mike Brock Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 16:3:51   71.237.135.205
The May Log made port in Oregon.
Mike Meister Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 13:45:37   205.188.116.12
I thought sitting on the buffer was the standard Navy way to buff floors!!
esink Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 13:13:0   71.207.33.205
Hi Roger...I would do the same thing with floor buffers at the military high school I attended 50 years ago...
Roger Wentworth Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 13:0:36   98.18.133.211
Hello Elgin
Roger Wentworth Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 13:0:26   98.18.133.211
A friend that I was in ACA School with called me today to give his condolences for my Father's passing. He reminded me of a night at the school when he and I, and some others were there stripping the floors to wax and buff them. The E3 that was in charge of us suggested that one of us sit on the buffer...that it would shine the floors better. So I volunteered. Guess who walked in? My Dad the Chief, who was on duty that night. Boy did he light into us about "horse play". When I went home that weekend, he really flew into me about how I should have known better. I still get a chuckle out of this when I think about my Dad. Funny thing about all this is that when I reported to the USS FORRESTAL after ACA school, everyone sat on the buffers to shine the floors.
Roger Wentworth Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 12:27:51   98.18.133.211
Hello Steve and Don!
Roger Wentworth Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 12:27:34   98.18.133.211
Received covers back from USS LINCOLN today. These were FDC covers for the 2009 Lincoln stamps with FDC cancels. There were three 4 cover sets, each set with a different CVN-72 cachet by yours truley. These are one of a kind sets.
I sent them to the CMC to see if she could get the C.O. and X.O, and herself, to autograph them on the back and have the OSC applied to the face of each. Well, I got exactly what I asked for. I sent scans to Greg C. to have them put into the Naval Cover Museum today. Hopefilly he will get them in there for you guys to seen soon.
john young Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 10:59:31   69.116.43.222
Ahoy Mates! Looks like another rainy day in lower
Hudson Valley. Have to get ready for beer coaster
convention in Thunder Bay, ONT, Canada during the
Memorial Day weekend. Should be a great show with
Rich Hoffner and his talk on early 20th centeny Yuengling coasters from Indian Valley pubs.
Please no beer cans! Only bottled beer in the
hospitality room with chips & dip.
esink Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 8:2:51   71.207.33.205
Good Morning...
BMCM Jones 3933 Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 21:14:29   72.188.40.91
I will be happy pick up any LOG articles you bring to the convention in a few weeks.
We can discuss possible research topics for articles. Bring your ideas.Mid year and I need to restock the pending file. I do have a few articles that I am saving for future months.
Seldom get articles on ship war time operations in Europe. Any takers?
Roger Wentworth Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 16:32:14   98.18.133.211
Hello Don T.
Mike Meister Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 14:14:32   205.188.116.12
Nicley done covers received today from the International Ice Patrol. Someone added $1.00 Canadian stamps to each and had them postmarked at St. Johns Nfd. corner card on the front and flight info on the back.
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 13:42:43   68.80.86.203
You can do a lot of social work if a carrier can be laid up. And, yes, you say what the boss wants you to say. The carriers are the most expensive toys in the Navy arsenal. Congress is always looking at them when they neeed to save a few million here or there. A million is "chump" change anyway these days. A few billion or a few trillion here or there and now you are talking real money. Delays in the next carrier will probably be a good thing for some of those social programs that will kick in four years from now. I believe we will loose a carrier before GERALD FORD comes on line.
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 13:35:17   68.80.86.203
Nice "Earthquake" cover back today with four bar cancel from USNS Dewayne T. Williams 4-13-10 (Actually an error since the ships name is "USNS PFC Dewayne T. Williams"). Appears they didn't have a 2010 date slug, so they too 2001 and cut off the 01 and turned it around to make a "10", very creative on the Pursers part.But this leads to the problem and probably the answer of why we are not seeing many "election" cancels with daters. In the past few years the USPS has replaced worn out cancels with preinked cancels with changeable dates (a wheel to change the date on the device). I suspect that they no longer have current date slugs in USPS supplies to replace daters for that type of postmark. Our chapter recently purchased a set for Norfolk, so that Heryey T could continue using some of his hand cancels for the same reason. A collector also donated daters to Groton last year so they could continue using their Submarine Base Station CDS.
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 13:26:48   68.80.86.203
Periodical class Log in the Indian Valley (SE PA) today.
esink Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 9:39:57   71.207.33.205
Good Morning...
Dave Kent Monday, May 10, 2010 at 21:41:19   72.195.145.51
Whatever he may be, he's an employee working for his boss, and he says whatever the boss tells him to say.
Dan Goodwin Monday, May 10, 2010 at 17:12:10   74.75.15.30
YES! And he is a republican too!
Roger Wentworth Monday, May 10, 2010 at 14:15:40   98.18.133.4
IS ROBERT GATES OUT OF HIS MIND????
Steve Shay Monday, May 10, 2010 at 11:4:55   12.238.10.2
Carriers Still Crucial To Projecting U.S. Power
(KANSAS CITY STAR 08 MAY 10) ... E. Thomas McClanahanDefense Secretary Robert Gates asked a simple question last week. Do we really need 11 aircraft carrier task groups patrolling the oceans for another 30 years?
Boy, did that raise eyebrows in military circles.
Gates spoke before an audience of naval officers and defense contractors, many of whom no doubt viewed his remarks as heresy.
But he made some telling points, namely that as anti-ship weapons have become more sophisticated and precise, our fleet of gigantic floating bases has become increasingly vulnerable. Does it make sense to tie up so many scarce defense dollars in assets that might be overwhelmed by anti-ship missiles or submarines?
In other words, are we headed for a moment like Pearl Harbor, when we suddenly learned that we had invested too much in battleships and relied on them for too long, ignoring their vulnerability to relatively cheap airplanes carrying torpedoes?
Since man began forming armies, a debate has raged. Which is best, heavy and expensive or light and agile? It depends: The two are in perpetual tension. In the Middle Ages, heavy and defensive ruled; some fortresses were effectively impregnable. But at Pearl Harbor, light and agile won the day.
Gates was saying that current conditions tend to favor forces that are widely dispersed and highly maneuverable — yet lethal, thanks to advances in weaponry. It’s time we put fewer eggs in the carrier task force basket and more in dispersed, maneuverable forces of our own — meaning smaller ships, perhaps with stealth capability, that can work closer to shore.
All of which is fine, as far as it goes. But Gates went much further. How many carrier task forces are enough? He didn’t propose a specific number, but he suggested a profoundly troubling measuring stick for deciding: The relative power of other seafaring nations.
“Do we really need 11 carrier strike groups … when no other country has more than one?” he asked.
Robert Haddick, a former Marine officer who writes at the Small Wars Journal site, noted that the answer to that question could be found in part on Okinawa, where residents are demanding closure of a major U.S. air base. Once that happens, Haddick wrote, a “big strategic hole” will open up in America’s western Pacific defense plans, and we will need our carriers even more to project force and deter aggression.
Okinawa isn’t the only problem. It’s becoming increasingly difficult to maintain bases in several other countries. Yet we have vital interests in far-flung regions such as the Persian Gulf, the Korean Peninsula and the Taiwan Strait.
“The fact that no other country, today at least, operates anything like a USN carrier strike group says nothing about their utility,” Haddick wrote. “I am surprised that Gates said this, especially to an audience of naval officers.”
The carrier force has been the primary instrument by which America maintains freedom of the seas. The importance of this benefit was highlighted more than a century ago by Alfred Thayer Mahan, in his pathbreaking “The Influence of Sea Power Upon History.” Mahan’s basic point was encapsulated in his introduction.
At one time or another, many of us read stories of the wars between Rome and Carthage, illustrated by pictures of Hannibal crossing the Alps with his elephants.
What was he doing in the Alps, anyway? Why didn’t he go by sea? It turns out the Romans controlled it, forcing Hannibal to go overland — a trek that cost him more than half his army. Those losses could be credited directly to the Roman navy.
U.S. control of the sea is a benefit largely conferred by the existence of a powerful fleet of carriers, able to project awesome power virtually anywhere on short notice or help in disaster aid when the need arises.
No one knows the “right” number of carrier task groups. Gates is surely right to suggest that it’s time to throw more money at lighter, cheaper, more maneuverable ships.
But the standard he suggested — the relative power of other navies — hints at something other than a measured adjustment. What Gates could have in mind is a radical cut in the carrier force, and that would surely be a big strategic mistake.
Steve Shay Monday, May 10, 2010 at 11:3:8   12.238.10.2
Women On Pearl Subs Unlikely For Now
(HONOLULU STAR-BULLETIN 07 MAY 10) ... Gregg K. Kakesako There are no immediate plans to modify the 17 attack submarines assigned to Pearl Harbor to accommodate female officers because the Navy plans to allow the first U.S. women to serve aboard larger submarines.
Changes will be limited to the larger nuclear guided-missile and ballistic-missile subs assigned to Kings Bay, Ga., and Bangor, Wash., said Lt. Cmdr. Dave Benham, Pacific Fleet Submarine Force spokesman.
"That is because this class of submarine has the most living space," he added.
The Ohio-class ballistic-missile submarines—often referred to as "boomers"—at 560 feet are three times larger than the 360-foot Los Angeles-class attack submarines and 12 times larger than the World War II diesel submarine USS Bowfin.
Only Ohio-class submarines will have female officers on board. That includes four of the older models that have been modified so that two of the sub's 24 missile tubes can launch and recover Navy commandos.
The decision to limit sub duty to female officers serving on boomers skirts the cost and problems in modifying smaller Los Angeles- and Virginia-class boats to have separate bunks and bathrooms for enlisted men and women. Enlisted sailors make up about 90 percent of a sub's 160-sailor crew. No time line was given for integrating enlisted women onto subs.
The Navy ended one of the few remaining gender barriers yesterday by lifting the restrictions against women serving on submarines. Despite lifting the ban against women serving on its surface vessels in 1994, the Navy kept female sailors off submarines because of the problems of cramped quarters and privacy issues.
Navy officials said the first female submariners will report for duty by 2012.
esink Monday, May 10, 2010 at 8:40:8   71.207.33.205
Good Morning...
Mike Meister Sunday, May 9, 2010 at 19:46:20   64.12.116.12
Roger W. My condolances also.
Roger Wentworth Sunday, May 9, 2010 at 13:7:51   98.18.133.4
Thank you all for your condolences and kind words. If it were not for my Dad sending me covers from the South Pole with all the interesting cachets on them, I would have never begun collecting naval covers and making cachets. And, I would have never gotten to know you guys!
John Young Sunday, May 9, 2010 at 10:18:6   69.116.43.222
Rich: There are two beer coaster conventions in
Ontario that weekend, one in Thunder Bay and the
other at Fort Severn on Hudson Bay. I'll meet you
at the one in Thunder Bay. Too cold for Hudson Bay in May. Will be staying at the Bates Motel &
bring some mild salsa for the chips.
esink Sunday, May 9, 2010 at 8:26:11   71.207.33.205
Good Morning and Happy Mother's Day to all of those in your families and mine...
CC Jake Sunday, May 9, 2010 at 1:56:45   24.2.178.105
Roger WentworthPlease accept my condolences on the loss of your dad.
Know the empty spot it leaves, my dad passed away in '59. He was a Navy Seabee veteran of WWII
Mike Brock Saturday, May 8, 2010 at 19:36:47   71.237.135.205
There's a guy called The Great Throwzini!
Mike Brock Saturday, May 8, 2010 at 19:34:18   71.237.135.205
Latest Postal Bulletin has a pictorial sponsored by International Knife-throwers Hall of Fame Committee for theCowboys of the Silver Screen Station
Postmaster
205 Clarkslanding Rd.
Port Republic, NJ
08241-9998
That hobby is kinda like collecting covers isn't it?
Rich Hoffner Saturday, May 8, 2010 at 16:50:3   68.80.86.203
John Young - FLASH - there is a beer coaster convention the last weekend of May in Ontario, land of Labatt. A series of ten free special limited edition coasters will be available for the first 1,000 who attend. You need to be there! They may have a hospitality room, so bring your duplicates.
Dennis Brophy Saturday, May 8, 2010 at 11:8:4   74.239.83.153
Roger W., very sorry to hear of your loss. My Dad is interred at Arlington.
Brof
Dennis Brophy Saturday, May 8, 2010 at 11:6:14   74.239.83.153
Havent seen any postings by Larry B. in a while. Is he OK? on vacation?
esink Saturday, May 8, 2010 at 9:26:42   71.207.33.205
Good Morning...
Greg Ciesielski Saturday, May 8, 2010 at 1:27:41   75.178.82.150
Thanks for the postmark compliments, I enjoy creating them when asked.
bill nestor Friday, May 7, 2010 at 23:31:2   71.166.110.61
Roger I am sorry for your loss
esink Friday, May 7, 2010 at 23:30:38   71.207.33.205
Thanks, Mike...agree Greg and Rich did great job on that cancel.
Ed Devlin Friday, May 7, 2010 at 21:10:42   141.154.227.224
LOG received in Boston today.
Mike Brock Friday, May 7, 2010 at 15:44:46   71.237.135.205
I also received covers from the USS NIMITZ. The cancels on mine were good.Elgin...Greg C. made the design and Rich had the rubber stamp made.
Great design Greg...Thanks!!!
Roger Wentworth Friday, May 7, 2010 at 14:52:22   98.18.133.4
Had to throw away all the USS NIMITZ/35th Annv. dated covers that I got back from the ship. The cancels were awful.
esink Friday, May 7, 2010 at 13:39:9   71.207.33.205
Hard copy May LOG received today in Harrisburg central PA area...great issue! Two USS NIMITZ (FPO)35th Anniversary (May 3) covers received...cancels a little light; one collectible...Nice cancel. Who made this for the ship?...Rich? Greg?
john young Friday, May 7, 2010 at 8:53:10   174.107.136.244
Welcome USCGC WAESCHE to the Coast Guard fleet. Looking forward for more back-of-the book covers
the newest cutter named for Admiral Waesche. Only
cover from him is in coming to him from wartime
Britain. Little known fact, he was aboard first
overseas flight to Ireland in 1939, as McDevitt
has FAM 18 cover with his autograph. His son,
Captain R.R. Waeesche, commanded NORTHWIND (W282)
during Bering Sea Patrol (1961-62)
Steve Shay Friday, May 7, 2010 at 8:31:47   12.238.10.2
Alameda - commissioning of second National Security Cutter
The US Coast Guard issued a news release stating that its second National Security Cutter, the 418 foot USCGC Waesche, will be commissioned in Alameda on May 7. The cutter is named for Admiral Russell R. Waesche, the wartime Commandant of the US Coast Guard.
Don Tjossem Friday, May 7, 2010 at 2:21:27   98.125.170.249
Roger,
I am sorry for your loss.
Don
Mike Kaup Friday, May 7, 2010 at 1:26:8   24.19.71.20
My Condolences Roger. My father was also buried at sea by the navy. It is an honor.
Mike Brock Friday, May 7, 2010 at 1:6:45   71.237.135.205
Sorry for your loss Roger.
Greg Ciesielski Friday, May 7, 2010 at 0:10:31   75.178.82.150
Rich H. Phil S. asked me to do the NY Fleet week postmark so thanks for the compliment.
Greg Ciesielski Friday, May 7, 2010 at 0:6:23   75.178.82.150
My prayers are with you Roger.
esink Thursday, May 6, 2010 at 22:25:39   71.207.33.205
My deepest condolences, also, Roger, to you and your family on your father's passing...
Dan Goodwin Thursday, May 6, 2010 at 20:7:56   74.75.15.30
My condolences to you and your family Roger.
Steve Shay Thursday, May 6, 2010 at 19:47:19   12.72.157.211
I'm very sorry for your loss Roger.
Roger Wentworth Thursday, May 6, 2010 at 18:9:57   98.18.133.4
My Father, William E. Wentworth/USN RET., finally lost his battle and passed away yesterday in Everett, WA. His ashes will be sprinkled at the Equator by the US Navy once my family delivers them. He will be missed. I was always proud of my Father's Navy accomplishments, and all the things that he taught me as a young man. He served 30 years in the USN and was a pioneer in the Air Traffic Control field and GCA School Instructor, at Brunswick, GA. His nickname at the ACA School was "the man with the golden arm".
Roger Wentworth Thursday, May 6, 2010 at 18:1:53   98.18.133.4
Apparently the USS LINCOLN found all those missing philatelic covers from Nov. of last year through March of this year. All the covers that I sent were returned to me this week with the dates that I requested. Excellent work by the COPE aand the PAO in locating these covers. I have sent thank you letters and a cover to each.
Roger Wentworth Thursday, May 6, 2010 at 17:57:8   98.18.133.4
Fleet Week/Port Everglades pictorials back this week. Very nice strikes!
esink Thursday, May 6, 2010 at 9:23:48   71.207.33.205
Good article on the LIBERTY incident appeared in Washington Post in 2003:
http://www.ussgeorgetown.com/The%20Attack%20On%20Liberty%20(washingtonpost_com).htm
Dave Kent Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 20:45:50   70.181.58.15
Taze's LIBERTY covers were for LDPS in January 1968. He put "Farewell to a Famous Ship" in the cachet and the CO objected, saying that the ship was not going to be decommissioned or scrapped, and confiscated the covers. They were released when the ship was decommissioned in June, and I believe they are all backstamped in Norfolk then.
esink Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 20:5:58   71.207.33.205
Rich and Mike/Thanks for the BUNKER HILL info...
esink Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 20:5:6   71.207.33.205
I have a LIBERTY cover returned to me from covers I had on hand with Nicholson...postmarked with cachet on day it returned "damaged" to Norfolk in 1967 I believe...It was illustrated in a LOG several years ago but would have to search for it.
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 18:24:12   68.80.86.203
JY - you are on the "no-smitticks list"!
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 18:21:35   68.80.86.203
Courtesy of Phil Schberiber I saw the Fleet Week NY 2010 pictorial from Staten Island. Nice work on the aprt of the USS New Jersey Chapter. Main element in the cancel os the silhouette of an Aegis DDG. Incidently, the USS James E. Williams DDG 95 is part of the Navy fleet in NYC this year.
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 18:18:23   68.80.86.203
The USS LIBERTY AGTR 5 epic continues to this day. Even with FOIA material, it appears that cover-ups may continue. A search of Google with FIOA foot-notes, has broken URL's that prevent the reader from reading the released information. Hummmm.....I recall Taze Nicholson mentioning that he was preparing to do a decommissioning cover for USS LIBERTY and was told the ship would not be decommissioned. He did do a cover, but it is rather generic and I don't think it was on the date she was decommissioned.
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 18:10:55   68.80.86.203
Elgin - don't send too soon. We had to do the pmk over due to a date glitch. A replacement is on order and will go to Oregon as soon as it is ready.
Mike Brock Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 15:51:34   71.237.135.205
Hi Elgin...here you go...C.O.P.E.
USS BUNKER HILL CG-52
Rose Festival Portland Oregon Postmark
FPO AP 96661-1172
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 15:30:41   68.80.86.203
Lyndon Johnson will never get a carrier. Does anyone recall who ordered the planes to return to their carrier when they were on the way to help the USS Liberty? Besides, he lifter his hounddog up by the ears!
Dennis Brophy Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 15:28:3   74.239.83.153
Rich Hoffner Re:Abscam, do murtha ring a bell?
GMG2 Gunners Mate(guns)2nd class E-5. My former rating.
esink Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 15:27:1   71.207.33.205
Mike Brock/For the USS BUNKER HILL CG-52 Port Visit at the Portland Oregon Rose Festival, to whom and how should covers be sent to get the Special FPO Cancel Dated 6-5-10?
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 15:11:9   68.80.86.203
Rich - also sign up for Delcampe and look around. Some navals are listed there. It's in Europe but many of the listers are in the US. Owner has been making the rounds of many large stamp shows in US and around the world. I have made purchases there.eCRATER is also an online site for selling, but I have never used that one.
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 15:2:38   68.80.86.203
Kudos to Groton CT post office for Ultra-Speedy delivery. Covers back today for USS Triton 1st Circumnavigation 5-10-10 and USS Alabama SSBN 731 25th nniversary on 5-25-10. Also rec'd chapter covers back for Nimitz 35th Anniversary Norfolk pictorial 5-3-10.DOn't forget to send for the Commissioning pictorial for USCGC WAESCHE WMSL 751 at Alamada CA. on May 7. Covers to:
Vicki Soriano - OIC
Alameda USPS
2201 Shoreline Dr.
Alameda CA 94501-9998
Greg Jacobs Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 12:44:45   71.235.38.99
Glad to see the chat room is back to normal.
Glenn Smith Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 9:14:28   67.232.233.139
A GM 2/c is E-5, not E-6.
Steve Shay Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 9:10:8   12.238.10.2
Rich, I've used Bidstart a few times to buy. It's okay.
Rich Nallenweg Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 8:28:16   24.176.83.214
Hi,
Is anyone buying naval covers at any on-line auction sites other than e-bay? If so, do you like the other site?
Thanks
john young Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 6:54:38   174.107.136.244
NC Pirate: Thanks for the heads-up. Maybe I'll stay home. Good time to clean out my sock draw, maybe bbr some gray lawn pets
Greg Ciesielski Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 0:26:58   75.178.82.150
Attention John Young: There will be no USCG covers allowed in New Jersey but especially in Secaucus. So you might as well stay home!
Greg Ciesielski Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 0:25:24   75.178.82.150
Phil - Thank you!
Greg Ciesielski Wednesday, May 5, 2010 at 0:25:12   75.178.82.150
Roger - Bunker Hill PM is from the ship.
esink Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 22:2:39   71.207.33.205
Dave...'agree with your comparison of Nixon and Johnson but our country's bottom was hit with Bush.
BMCM Jones 3933 Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 21:53:42   72.188.40.91
USS FREEDOM is going into NASSCO drydock for repairs to a waterjet. Blue crew has her now.Freedom will be in dry dock for about five days. After her yard period, the ship is to sail to the northern Pacific for the Canadian Fleet Review, and then to Hawaiian waters for the annual Rim of the Pacific exercise.
Dave Kent Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 20:27:31   70.181.58.15
I think there would be a revolution among carrier pilots if they were ever to suggest naming a carrier for Lyndon Johnson. He botched the Vietnam War dreadfully, sending hundreds of young carrier pilots to their deaths and many more to POW camps. If I were to rate all of the presidents on their achievements in office, I would rate George W. Bush and Richard Nixon way, way above Lyndon Johnson.
BMCM Jones 3933 Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 19:20:19   72.188.40.91
No RIMPAC ship list yet confirmed.Will have several ships for SINKEX-not named yet.
Roger Wentworth Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 17:31:51   98.18.133.4
Rich Hoffner,
Why not name a ship for Richard Nixon? A Garbage Scow maybe? LOL!
I've always wondered why we have no carrier named Lyndon Johnson. Anyone have the skinny on this?
Roger Wentworth Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 17:28:31   98.18.133.4
Rich Hoffner,
Is that Rose Festival/USS BUNKER HILL cancel on the ship itself or at the Portland P.O. If at Portland, which zip code.
Roger Wentworth Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 17:22:56   98.18.133.4
Richard Jones,
Do you know which ships will be participating in RIMPAC?
john young Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 16:22:54   174.107.136.244
Notice to All Hands,
The NOJEX Anti=Terrorist Detail has annouced that certain members of the USCS are forbidden to
look at boxes of covers during the Memorial Day
weekend, especially those having more than two
Coast Guard covers.
Those included on the no-look list are the gentleman farmer from Eastern Pennsylvania and
any members of his immediate family. He's in
his 60's, glasses, drives a Jeep and drinks the
imported beer from Pennsylvania. Answers to the
name of Rich and has printing press in his barn.
Steve Shay Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 10:36:57   12.238.10.2
RI Group Wants To Host Carrier John F. Kennedy
(ASSOCIATED PRESS 03 MAY 10) ... Michelle R. SmithPROVIDENCE, R.I. — A Rhode Island nonprofit group on Monday launched a campaign to bring the retired aircraft carrier John F. Kennedy to the state for use as a museum, citing President Kennedy’s connections to Newport and the support of his nephew, Rep. Patrick Kennedy.
The effort by the Rhode Island Aviation Hall of Fame pits Newport County against Portland, Maine, the other site being considered by the Navy, which plans to donate the decommissioned ship. The winner will have to move the 1,050-foot ship from Philadelphia, where it’s currently being kept.
The JFK, known as “Big John,” was the last conventionally powered aircraft carrier built by the Navy, and it once carried a crew of 4,600 and 70 combat aircraft. It was built in Virginia and christened by Kennedy’s 9-year-old daughter, Caroline, in 1967. It was active in both Iraq wars and the war in Afghanistan, and decommissioned in 2007.
Kennedy did his PT Boat training at Naval Station Newport during World War II, was married in Newport in 1953 to Jacqueline Bouvier and spent so much time during his presidency at her childhood home in Newport, Hammersmith Farm, that it became known as the “Summer White House.”
Among the supporters of the Newport County proposal are Evan Smith, president of the Newport and Bristol County Convention and Visitors Bureau, who in a recent letter of support cited the Navy’s long history in Newport, and said the region’s 3 million annual visitors might like to tour such a ship. In a separate letter, Patrick Kennedy, D-R.I., said it would help continue President Kennedy’s long association with the state.
The Rhode Island Aviation Hall of Fame has been working for about a decade to open a museum on a different decommissioned aircraft carrier, Saratoga. But Frank Lennon, president of the group, said Monday they were abandoning that effort because of a recent decision by the Navy to dispose of the Saratoga rather than donate it.
“We’ve got the population mass, located between the Boston and New York market. We’ve got 10 years of experience. We’ve got Kennedy family connections,” he said. “I’m confident that we have a winner.”
Lennon estimates they will need to raise $8 million to $10 million for the JFK project, which is less than the $12 million to $15 million they would have had to raise for the Saratoga, which was in worse condition.
He said they already raised about $10.5 million, including donations, pledges and federal support, for the Saratoga. He said all the major pledges will be transferred to the JFK project, and the group is investigating whether the federal money can also be transferred.
If the application is approved, a hangar bay will be dedicated to a USS Saratoga Museum, he said.
Lennon said there are three or four locations on Aquidneck Island that would be appropriate to dock the carrier, but he would not say what they were because they are in “delicate discussions” about them.
Richard Fitzgerald, chief financial officer of the Maine group, known as JFK for ME, says they intend to raise $60 million over 10 years. He noted that given the choice of a port of call in 1989, the sailors from the Kennedy chose Portland Harbor, indicating Portland is the ship’s proper home.
“The return of the JFK to the waters of Portland Harbor will complete the wishes of the former crew,” he said. “This ship will have the honor of becoming the landmark of our harbor and in time she will honor all that served on her, and she will equally honor the state of Maine.”
The two groups have until early next year to submit a second-round application that includes a plan for operating the ship.
esink Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 7:37:54   71.207.33.205
Good Morning...
Phil Schreiber Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 7:23:43   67.85.178.163
Dave Kent: Your remarks about Vietnam veterans view of the news also applies to Korean War vets. During that time I personally witnessed a TV reporter broadcasting from the deck of USS CAMBRIA (APA-36) saying that the Marines aboard and the crew of the ship were reservists who had been dragged bag to service "kicking and screaming." We were reservists who had voluntarily remained in the reserve following World War II service. I have not trusted the media since.
Phil Schreiber Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 7:7:48   67.85.178.163
G.M.2/C IS GUNNERS MATE SECOND CLASS (E-6)
Greg Ciesielski Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 0:32:32   75.178.82.150
From 1944 cover. Sailors rate was given as G.M.2/c. What is that?
Don Tjossem Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 0:1:9   98.125.219.171
By the Navy News Service May 3rd1861 - USS Surprise captures Confederate privateer Savannah.
1898 - Marines land at Cavite, Philippines, and raise U.S. flag.
1949 - First Navy firing of a high altitude Viking rocket at White Sands, NM.
BMCM Jones 3933 Monday, May 3, 2010 at 22:50:57   72.188.40.91
Military personnel from 14 nations are set to participate in the biennial Rim of the Pacific, or RIMPAC, exercise.From June 23 through Aug. 1, the U.S. Pacific Fleet will host the exercise involving 20,000 personnel, 34 surface ships, five submarines and more than 100 aircraft.
U.S. military officials said Monday that RIMPAC demonstrates a commitment to working with partners in guarding the sea lanes, protecting national interests abroad, and ensuring freedom of navigation as a basis for global peace and prosperity.
The exercise includes units or personnel from Australia, Canada, Chile, Colombia, France, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, Netherlands, Peru, South Korea, Singapore, Thailand and the United States.
Dave Kent Monday, May 3, 2010 at 22:26:48   72.192.31.156
Stewart: like most Vietnam veterans I know, I stopped watching television "news" when I got back from Vietnam and found what lies they were telling the American people. I have never watched it since.
Stewart B. Milstein Monday, May 3, 2010 at 22:5:21   75.242.32.218
bbl
Stewart B. Milstein Monday, May 3, 2010 at 22:5:2   75.242.32.218
Why you should not get the news on TV - the people who read the copy do not listen to themselves. A reader on CNN this AM lambasted AZ for wanting to fire teachers with thick accents. I will not debate the argument but merely point out the fact the she said that accents do not count and cited Gov. Schwarzeneger of CA and his AUSTRALIAN accent.Later on in the day CNN was conducting a poll on how teachers should be fired - should it be by seniority or by quality. However, if you fire hundreds of teachers do you also need to fire supervisors and administrators since they have fewer people to administer and supervise. How should administrators be let go - seniority or quality of performance? For that they had no poll.
Stewart B. Milstein Monday, May 3, 2010 at 21:59:50   75.242.32.218
Hi Phil - looking forward to seeing you. I mailed the package to you this AM. Save the stamps if you can.
bill nestor Monday, May 3, 2010 at 21:45:4   71.166.102.117
good lots I meant
bill nestor Monday, May 3, 2010 at 21:44:48   71.166.102.117
Some god lots at Dutch Conutry Auctions. One lot with about 150 penalty covers, and another with 1400 covers and yet a third lot with 800+ 1980's cover with ....(uh oh ) add-on cachets.
Mike Brock Monday, May 3, 2010 at 18:10:12   71.237.135.205
USPS Approved Postmarks:May 15th Armed Forces Day Bremerton, WA 98337
May 25th USS ALABAMA SSBN-731 25th Anniversary Keyport, WA 98345 also Groton, CT 06340
Mike Brock Monday, May 3, 2010 at 18:1:54   71.237.135.205
USS BUNKER HILL CG-52 Port Visit
Rose Festival Portland Oregon
Special FPO Cancel Dated 6-5-10Thanks to Greg C. for the cancel design and Rich for the rubber stamp.
esink Monday, May 3, 2010 at 16:59:46   71.207.33.205
Thanks Rich...
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 3, 2010 at 16:40:3   68.80.86.203
NUMBER OF DAYS UNTIL THE CONVENTION: 24
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 3, 2010 at 16:37:16   68.80.86.203
No way we can stop politicians from naming ships. Let's see: A sub for Jimmy Carter? Perhaps an aircraft carrier someday for our current prez?
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 3, 2010 at 16:33:15   68.80.86.203
Elgin, they are all on the Internet. Simply search Google for the flight number. You can download them and print them on your covers.
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 3, 2010 at 16:31:45   68.80.86.203
Abscam mean anything to anyone?
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 3, 2010 at 16:30:40   68.80.86.203
John. I spoke with your bride and she has extended your stay until June 1. Enjoy the long siesta from covers. Everyone needs a cover break.
Rich Hoffner Monday, May 3, 2010 at 16:29:33   68.80.86.203
First class log in Franconia PA today.
Mike Meister Monday, May 3, 2010 at 14:46:33   64.12.116.12
Paper LOG arrived today in Columbus. label says mailed 4/29
john young Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:32:30   174.107.136.244
Still at the beach for another week. Only covers
seen are visit to ebay. Nothing of interest except some hand-drawn by Collins on MARYLAND
cover.
esink Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:2:36   71.207.33.205
Good Morning...
esink Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 23:31:24   71.207.33.205
Richard/Thanks for the info...looks pretty useful.
BMCM Jones 3933 Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 22:43:2   72.188.40.91
EsinkTry this site for full-color logos
http://www.seasky.org/spacexp/sky5b11.html
esink Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 22:24:45   71.207.33.205
Hi Stew...enjoying heavy rain storm here in Central PA
Stewart B. Milstein Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 22:11:20   75.245.21.90
Mike Kaup - I can tell you that the 3 most populat categories in the Sales Circuit are AIRCARFT CARRIERS, BATTLESHIPS & CRUISERS, and DIESEL SUBS, Not too far behind are DESTROYERS.
Stewart B. Milstein Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 22:7:26   75.245.21.90
Hi Elgin
esink Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 21:55:51   71.207.33.205
Not ship-oriented but does anybody know how I can get the flight logos for various STS (space shuttle) launches and landings? Or better yet, how can I get these color logos added to my covers which have only the Kennedy Space Center postmark?
Glenn Smith Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 21:3:3   67.232.233.139
As another Pennsylvanian, in my opinion the name Murtha should not be attached to any naval vessel, not even a T-AKE.I gues an exception might be an AVSGS (a very small garbage scow).
Steve Shay Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 20:0:11   12.72.158.111
My message from April 15 with the link and weird characters has scrolled off (meaning it was more than 200 messages ago.) The screen is back to narrow view.
Dennis Brophy Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 18:53:24   98.17.116.100
I intend to write both of my Senators and and my Cong.Joe Wilson expressing my disgust re: USS murtha.
Dan Goodwin Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 16:44:28   74.75.15.30
Sorry John, Murtha was NOT a pioneer!
john young Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 12:10:25   174.107.136.244
Thad: Thanks for the kind words at Walt. The story was my nomination letter to USCS Hall of
Fame- sadly he didn't do enough for the society.
Entry was denied for this year!
john young Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 12:4:23   174.107.136.244
Dan:
You're wrong Murtha was a pioneer- a ex- marine turned corrupt politican. Not many of them
Dan Goodwin Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 11:44:49   74.75.15.30
I don't think we need John Murtha's name on a T-AKE either. He was neither an explorer nor a pioneer. I hope I'm not too political, but I think he was a bum.
Roger Wentworth Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 11:18:42   98.18.137.188
I agree with Rich and Steve on this survey thing.
Rich Hoffner Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 10:35:22   68.80.86.203
I have two uncacheted covers posted
Air Force Postal Service
APO MIA 34002 (Panama Canal)
dated 10-5-87. No indication
what they represent,
but they were in a lot of
sub covers, so they must
have been dropped off in the
canal for posting from a sub
at a collectors request. Anyone
have a list of such events to
determine what sub it was?
Correct answer gets one of the covers.
Rich Hoffner Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 9:25:32   68.80.86.203
I am another resident of PA and the naming
of a ship that will drive Marines
into harm's way is bothersome to me.
He is on the record of what he said about
Marines. He betrayed his roots, and I guess
Marines finally have their "former Marine".
It used to be "once a Marine always a
Marine" but in Rep. Murtha's case,
"former" is right. I sent letters
to SECDEF, CNO, SECNAV, CJCS,
Mrs. Pelosi and Mr. Reid
explaining my opinion and suggesting
they reconsider and assign the name
to an T-AKE.
Rich Hoffner Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 9:15:10   68.80.86.203
A former member was known by fellow employees
at the Philadelphia Navy Yard as "trash man".
He was even the subject of an article in the
yard newspaper due to his regularly being
seen climbing into "dumpsters" on the base.
This former member proudly had the article
framed and displayed on a wall in his home.
It's the old addage "one mans trash
is another mans treasure".
Once, when a chapter member went with him to
present a ships cachet to a frigate
in the yard, the former member started to
rummage through a trash can next to
the desk where we were waiting for
an escort to the frigate. The chapter
member never went to the yard again with
"trash man" to avoid such embarrising
moments. Elgin's rummaging stirred
this memory.This note has been modified to fit your
monitor!
Rich Hoffner Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 9:2:55   68.80.86.203
Read all the "survey" notes. Steve S has it right, what would a survey do for us?
I miss the old membership applications
that had a place to check off or list miscellaneous collecting interests.
The info was then published after the
collectors name and address in the
membership report each month.
It did give others the oppourunity
to contact others with like interests.
That was discontinued many years
ago, and the reason is probably lost
to history.This note has been modified to fit your
monitor!
esink Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 8:58:55   71.207.33.205
Good Morning...
Don Tjossem Saturday, May 1, 2010 at 19:0:23   98.125.231.154
Paper LOG arrives in Longbranch, WA!
Dan Goodwin Saturday, May 1, 2010 at 17:18:1   74.75.15.30
Thad, I totally agree (re:Murtha).
tkaczkowski Saturday, May 1, 2010 at 17:0:3   71.61.126.175
John Young - great Member of the Month article on Walter Grabowy. He was a good guy. I have everyone of his Coast Guard covers he sponsored from the first to the last. He would send me the sheets with each cachet numbered. I kept them for years and finally sent them to Bob Rawlins for a record and for the cachet catalog. Bob said there were a few "special" cachets in there he was unaware of. I wrote Walt about what did I have to do about getting a cachet produced for the 100th Anniversary of Destroyers. He wrote back saying he would produce it and send me the cachet "Free" of charge. He would not hear of me paying for it no matter how insistent I was. He wrote to me saying, and I haven't forgot his words. "I deem it so". I advertised in the Log that I would apply the cachet stamp to all members sending me blank covers and return them so they could be serviced. I did quite a few. I still have the cachet. Great guy... I was sadden when he passed. I was one of the USCS guys he provided a cachet to.
tkaczkowski Saturday, May 1, 2010 at 16:40:17   71.61.126.175
USS John Murtha ?? You gotta be kidding. Maybe they will serve a lot of "pork" when commissioned. That one will be tough to add to the collection. I'm from PA and not far from Johnstown (his district) and have nothing good to say. Sorry to be political when there are so many more diserving out there.....
john young Saturday, May 1, 2010 at 8:53:54   174.107.136.244
Neat Hengstler Cover of the Month. He did whole
holiday series in 1935 i.e. Memorial thru Navy Day on photographic paper.Member of the Month photo of Walter Grabowy,
taken in November 1944, while aboard FS in
South Pacific. Walt was cachet agent for the
Coast Guard Study Group (1984-2002) One minor
typo- He started producung Coast Guard Day
covers in August 1982
Dan Goodwin Saturday, May 1, 2010 at 6:27:53   74.75.15.30
Elgin is now a "dumpster diver"! LOL
Don Tjossem Saturday, May 1, 2010 at 0:29:8   98.125.163.89
Elgin,
Sounds like a LOG article waiting to be written, to me!